Windows 10....one year later....disscussion, thoughts.

[Marc]

I HATE Microsoft and their updates. Heard that their KB4013429 had bad issues, and now I've found out that the patch for it (KB4015438) has issues as well. I'm not too happy right now, as I'm not made of money if this screws things up too badly. Screw you, Microsoft!

Did you try the manual download and installation as mentioned in the article? I've had a couple of updates for both Windows 10 and Server 2016 that failed to install via Windows update so I simply downloaded and manually installed without any issues.


Just checked my wife's laptop which is running the 1607 build (I have the insider builds on my system) and 4015438 is showing as installed succesfully on 03/27/2016.

These things aren't the end of the world - take a deep breath and relax and stop going looking bad news about Windows 10. A failure for the update to install isn't something worth getting in a lather over. If the update seriously breaks something then you can complain.

I've been dealing with computers personally and professionally since the 80s and know that over the years microsoft have had some serious fuckups with their patches and new versions of software sometimes yes quality control should be looked at other times, it's the simple fact you're dealing with a very complex piece of software that not only has to look forwards but at the same time look backwards.

 

[Random_Spock]

Did you try the manual download and installation as mentioned in the article? I've had a couple of updates for both Windows 10 and Server 2016 that failed to install via Windows update so I simply downloaded and manually installed without any issues.


Just checked my wife's laptop which is running the 1607 build (I have the insider builds on my system) and 4015438 is showing as installed succesfully on 03/27/2016.

These things aren't the end of the world - take a deep breath and relax and stop going looking bad news about Windows 10. A failure for the update to install isn't something worth getting in a lather over. If the update seriously breaks something then you can complain.

I've been dealing with computers personally and professionally since the 80s and know that over the years microsoft have had some serious fuckups with their patches and new versions of software sometimes yes quality control should be looked at other times, it's the simple fact you're dealing with a very complex piece of software that not only has to look forwards but at the same time look backwards.

Didn't have to. Luckily it installed ok. Made sure to run a back up last night just in case. Read about others who ran into issues with those updates and that's why I was as angry as I was along with being concerned. I ran into an issue with an update awhile back and had to hard reset. Luckily it was just that, but I certainly didn't want to run into something very bad.

I had a right to be concerned as I don't have the years of experience you have and I'm not as versed as you are, meaning in case anything went uber wrong it might have been above what I could have done for my laptop and I'd have to take it in.

 

[Marc]

Didn't have to. Luckily it installed ok. Made sure to run a back up last night just in case. Read about others who ran into issues with those updates and that's why I was as angry as I was along with being concerned. I ran into an issue with an update awhile back and had to hard reset. Luckily it was just that, but I certainly didn't want to run into something very bad.

I had a right to be concerned as I don't have the years of experience you have and I'm not as versed as you are, meaning in case anything went uber wrong it might have been above what I could have done for my laptop and I'd have to take it in.

maybe the smart move would be to not go reading about the problems people have unless you run into those issues yourself.

otherwise all you are doing is re-enforcing negativity and that's never a good thing.

 

[Kor]

On my notebook PC, Windows 10 keeps doing this stupid thing where, when I lock the computer and come back later, the box to enter my password refuses to appear when it should. I have to keep powering down or putting it to sleep and then powering up over and over, until the login box finally appears at random.

I hate this idiotic thing with a vengeance. I HATE IT!

Kor

 

[Marc]

On my notebook PC, Windows 10 keeps doing this stupid thing where, when I lock the computer and come back later, the box to enter my password refuses to appear when it should. I have to keep powering down or putting it to sleep and then powering up over and over, until the login box finally appears at random.

I hate this idiotic thing with a vengeance. I HATE IT!

Kor

I've seen that on occasions when I first go to logon for the day it's not that frequently (running insider releases) but don't think it's ever come up on my wife's laptop.

in my case an SSD takes must of the pain out of rebooting at least.

 

[Marc]

Microsoft is starting to roll out the new full release build of Windows 10 (the so called Creators Update).

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...date-starting-today-with-this-microsoft-tool/

I've been running the build since it was rolled out to fast track insiders and haven't had any major issues with it in day to day usage (don't game so can't attest to how it the gaming features go).

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Microsoft is starting to roll out the new full release build of Windows 10 (the so called Creators Update).

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...date-starting-today-with-this-microsoft-tool/

I've been running the build since it was rolled out to fast track insiders and haven't had any major issues with it in day to day usage (don't game so can't attest to how it the gaming features go).

Is there any real differences with that and Windows 10 Home?

I keep getting a message to choose this version of Windows in Windows Update

 

[Marc]

Is there any real differences with that and Windows 10 Home?

I keep getting a message to choose this version of Windows in Windows Update

It's still going to be Windows 10 Home it's just going to be a later build of Windows 10 Home.

 

[Santaman]

Later build means that it's another beta plagued with flaws, bugs, zero reliability, will mess or break all your personal settings, reinstate all the spying options, give you adds and so on, by the time it will become usable M$ will replace it by yet another new build, which normal users have to beta test and debug.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Later build means that it's another beta plagued with flaws, bugs, zero reliability, will mess or break all your personal settings, reinstate all the spying options, give you adds and so on, by the time it will become usable M$ will replace it by yet another new build, which normal users have to beta test and debug.

OK that's why I don't want this new update which at the moment is optional.

 

[Random_Spock]

OK that's why I don't want this new update which at the moment is optional.

Exactly. No thanks Microsoft.

 

[Santaman]

I simply will not run Windows 10 unless they stop the spying..
http://www.infoworld.com/article/31...ally-sheds-light-on-windows-10-telemetry.html

Seems even at the lowest level you're transmitting 1966 seperate sets of data to M$

Fun fun..

https://technet.microsoft.com/itpro/windows/configure/windows-diagnostic-data
Here's a full list of what M$ is getting from you if you're not careful... diagnostics my ass...

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I'm a bit iffy in regards to turning diagnostics off. I could picture it being handy in some situations.

 

[DimesDan]

maybe the smart move would be to not go reading about the problems people have unless you run into those issues yourself.

otherwise all you are doing is re-enforcing negativity and that's never a good thing.

Indeed, to me it sounds counter-productive, if there is an issue, you can deal with it, troubleshoot for ways to rectify the problem and then get it sorted. To actively expect a problem is just silly as then you'll remember all the times it didn't work even if that is just 1% of the time and forget all the times it did work.

I had a slight hiccup the other day with an update, it didn't hold and for some reason wouldn't let me sign in normally, although all my files and applications were in tact, so anyway, I told my system to look for any updates and installed them manually and it now works right as rain.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

OK first BSOD in 12 months...

This was an odd one. The event viewer said that the computer rebooted from a bug check. In fact during boot there was that blue screen with the sad face icon and it was creating a memory dump file then rebooted and all was well.

Is there a way to read these dump files and see what the actual BSOD was for?

 

[Marc]

Is there a way to read these dump files and see what the actual BSOD was for?

yes if you have programming and debug knowledge.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

yes if you have programming and debug knowledge.

Oh bummer.....

 

[Amaris]

Well, I reinstalled Windows 10 last night. Everything was slower than a donkey cart moving uphill in a hailstorm, and I started getting errors in places where I should not have been getting errors. So I figured a fresh install would do wonders, and so I wiped everything, reformatted the hard drive, and reinstalled Windows 10. Yeah, there's the refresh option, but I'm a firm believer in scorched earth when it comes to OS installation. I want everything to be fresh as a daisy, and not sitting on top of semi-clean data.

It seems the fresh install did wonders. Speed is back to what it was, stability is 100%. Also, a great side effect: my drive transfer speeds hover around 140 MB/s, which is crazy good as far as I'm concerned. I don't mean for 5 or 10 seconds at a time, either. I transferred a 5 GB file, and it just flew from one drive to another at top speed. I was impressed. So perhaps it was just a bad install.

Of course, now I'm about to update to the Windows 10 Creator's Update, and I'm a bit worried. Knowing my luck, that will screw up everything.

Hence, I'm making a drive image as we speak, just in case. I got everything how I want it. Like hell if I'm going to let it get screwed up by an update.

 

[Gary7]

I had the damnedest time getting my computers properly updated to Windows 10. They were both on 8.1. The automatic install would go through 3 phases... totaling 2 hours or more. And then, near the end, it would hit some snag that threw an exception, tossing out a cryptic error code and reverting back. Searching on-line turned up a smattering of tips and tricks here and there from others who suffered the same or similar fate... and none worked, while some got me closer, but still no completion.
What finally helped me get over the hurdle was to download a full ISO image of Windows 10 and install that, while keeping anti-virus off and all services stopped except for Microsoft ones. After upgrading I was fine... until Windows 10 recognized I was not on the latest and tried to auto-update my computers again (I have 2). And same kinds of failures once more. I couldn't get up to the Anniversary release. I eventually solved this by resorting to the same ISO download again. But it wouldn't work directly with the Anniversary release. I had to select the one just prior. And that worked. From there, the auto-update to the Anniversary edition tried to process... but it failed. I let Windows send the log back to Microsoft. It went at it about 3 different times until someone at Microsoft fixed the code so that it leap frogged over the issue and completed. However... it worked for only one computer. The other one was still stuck on the release prior to the Anniversary edition! And it went through 4 update attempt iterations over the course of 2 months before it finally worked. Now both are on the latest version.
This was the most excruciating problem I ever faced with Microsoft Windows versions. This was a terrible mess. Windows 10 increased installation complexity and it just wasn't ready. But everything is fine now. I'm not going to hold my breath on Windows 11, though.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I don't think there's going to be any Windows 11 or numerical equivalent any time soon. From my understanding MS is using 10 as their core base and just adding onto that with future updates.