Agreed. There is nothing about the Borg that makes me inclined to see another story with them again. Overused, depowered and defeated.
What could be done to make them interesting again?
Will The Borg be back?
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What could be done to make them interesting again?
The Borg are in a similar state to the Daleks. You need a really unique idea to make them interesting and scary again. After the episode Dalek, I don't have any desire to see them again. However I don't think the Borg have quite had their definitive story told yet. First Contact was close, but I think it's possible to do better. So I'd welcome their return.
ONE way to bring the Borg to this continuity is to adapt the IDW comic book that featured the Borg: Star Trek: Boldly Go #3
By the logic of Surak , please no! Assimilate something else!
I was being sarcastic, never let it be said reusing a plot was a Star Trek weakness
Best of Both Worlds was their peak. Everything else has involved some weird way that they have become obsessed with humanity (Picard, Seven) or pursing perfection and hunting the Omega molecule.
BOBW and FC were certainly their best stories, but are they the best ones that can be told? I think there's still more that can be done with them. Imagine a talented designer updating their look with modern technology. It could be extraordinary.
I think, when the Borg were still fresh as a concept, that there was a lot more potential for stories. I think "I, Borg" presented some interesting way to approach them. I think VOY took some interesting twists and turns, but also abandoned some facets shown in TNG.
I agree that updating the Borg with contemporary technology, or technological advancements could be a lot of fun, but I'm not certain it could be done with just the Borg as is.
I don't have the answer, as it might be fun to explore the Borg from the ground up, or possibly recreating them as far more of an unstoppable force like they were in BOBW.
That's why I used Dalek as an example. In that episode you've got just the one Dalek and it's shown to be unstoppable, that if it gets loose it will destroy the whole world. You can really feel the Doctor's fear.
Then in later episodes everyone jokes about their goofy appearance, and there's a fleet with millions of Daleks and all it takes is the flip of a switch to blow them all up. Suddenly they're not scary in the slightest.
Yes, but how do move back? Unlike the Daleks, there is no reason Star Trek to keep going back to the Borg.
Well the reason would be if they came up with a great story that needs the Borg. They shouldn't decide to do a Borg movie and then think of a story that will allow for it, although that is how First Contact came about so it can work.
Personally I doubt they will use the Borg for this series of movies. If they were to do Kelvin-timeline TNG movies it would absolutely happen.
Ugh, I hope not. So sick of the Borg. Why not have a more cyberpunk-esque fringe group that grows more and more powerful and the Federation has not idea how to deal with them, since they didn't anticipate using technology like this?
Isn't that half the fun?
That group will still be too busy recovering from the aneurysm caused by the Klingon redesign to bother anyone.
I have been told that 0.000something percent of people read the IDW comics, but they have covered the alt reality Borg already. Indeed, the comics that take place in between the movies (not counting those written specifically to lead up to or directly follow the events of a film) almost seem to be a kind of "here's what we're not doing in the next film" confirmation. For instance,
apparently, Garth features in the latest Boldly Go stories.
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Are those comics any good? I've been curious about them.
I've only read up to the end of the "Ongoing" series - I wait for the library to buy the anthologies of the issues (Boldly Go Vol 1 just came out, and they haven't received/input their copy into the catalogue.
They're supposed to be. Apparently, they're written in cooperation/communication with the film writers, so that the details match up, timeline-wise.
They're supposed to be. Apparently, they're written in cooperation/communication with the film writers, so that the details match up, timeline-wise.
When has that stopped them? Honestly, they've explored so many other "sacred cows" in this series why not the Borg. I mean, I'm not a fan, but it could be different enough to be interesting.
One of the Kelvinverse Starfleet Academy novels had the Borg visiting San Francisco in the form of a nanorobot swarm. They basically floated around as a black cloud that could immediately form itself into shapes and structures as needed and then melt away at will. The way the book describes it, it was like a gaseous version of the T-1000, except it also had a tendency to EAT PEOPLE'S INTERNAL ORGANS, so in that sense it was also a bit like the Dikironium Cloud Creature.
That would certainly be an upgrade. I rewatched the 90's movie Virus the other day, and could see a less gory and more steampunk version of that "look" working really well for Kelvinverse Borg.
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