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Will ST09 have legs?

Warped9

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Here's the thing. Abrams' movie is new and the hot topic of discussion (that's an understatement). But will it have legs? We've seen lots of films that arrive with a big splash and then before you know it they're pretty much forgotten. The mainstream public is like that--short attention span.

It's a given that there's going to be a sequel(s) as long as it makes money. But in the long run are Abrams' films going to be assimilated mainstream?

That's an open question because we're still early into this game. TNG had seven years to establish itself, but once out of production I think it started to fall off the radar with the mainstream audience. Could the Abrams' film(s) experience the same?

The same thing happened with the X-Files. It was one of the hottest things on TV, then it goes out of production and poof! X-What?
 
The same thing happened with the X-Files. It was one of the hottest things on TV, then it goes out of production and poof! X-What?
I think that poor final couple of seasons combined with one mediocre movie left a bad taste in the mouth of mainstream public... The X-files just didn't have that mystery, that spookyness, that "mojo" it used to have...

As for ST XI... Well, good DVD sales give some optimism, don't they?
 
'09 will age about as well as most of the other Trek movies. Perhaps even better due to its superior, not made-for-tvish, production values. Must be nice to keep moving the goal posts back though, huh? :rolleyes:
 
'09 will age about as well as most of the other Trek movies. Perhaps even better due to its superior, not made-for-tvish, production values. Must be nice to keep moving the goal posts back though, huh? :rolleyes:
It's just a question to foster discussion. :rolleyes:
 
It's already showing more legs on video sell-through than a lot of recent Trek. Yes, it will continue to be popular and has a far better chance of remaining popular with the general public in ten years than most of the previous Trek movies with the exception of maybe TWOK and TVH.
 
For me the best thing that can come from it is to make Trek popular and profitable enough (I have a hard time grasping how these two things aren't already true) to justify the production of the next TV series. Maybe after the second movie if it does well?

I'll never get over all the shitbag reality shows that go on season after season, but yet Enterprise was canceled?!

I hate people.
 
For me the best thing that can come from it is to make Trek popular and profitable enough to justify the production of the next TV series.

I'll never get over all the shitbag reality shows that go on season after season, but yet Enterprise was canceled?!

I hate people.

They are cheaper to produce.
 
For Enterprise, the costs were high and the gains were low (relatively speaking.) For reality shows not so much (though let's not forget a fair amount of reality shows go through the chopping block too.)
 
Hard to say. ST XI will always have the distinction of being the first movie to break away from the original continuity. Among fandom, ST XI's legs will be determined by whether or not its sequel overshadows it. The second Star Trek movies always tend to be considered the best. Look at TWOK and FC.

The general public will be a little different: ST XI's legs will depend upon how well it holds up 10-20 years from now and if it managed to distinguish itself from its 2009 peers. In 2030, I think people will be more likely to talk about Avatar and Wall-E than Star Trek (2009).
 
I think it will have legs. Mostly because it will, for quite a while at least, be mentioned in the public eye.

* It was fun, and fun movies tend to last.

* It won an academy award (even if "just" make-up) which means that it will always be discussed as "the first (maybe only) Star Trek to win an academy award."

* I have no doubt that some of the new cast members (if not all) will continue to have vibrant on-camera careers, unlike most actors of the other casts. This means that these actors will consistently find themselves in the public eye, and Star Trek will constantly be mentioned as part of these actor's resumes.

* JJ Abrams and company will have a vibrant production career, and that too will continually bring this movie up.

So I think there are legs here. :)

Orren
 
I hope so.

It's already showing more legs on video sell-through than a lot of recent Trek.
I don't think comparing it to other Trek is a good measure.

STXI earned less money than Superman Returns, and that film stalled out that franchise. By the same comparison Batman Begins made less than STXI and got a sequel (The Dark Knight).

I don't think the studio was expecting much from Batman Begins but expected a lot from Superman Returns. So no matter how we see STXI, if the studio had higher expectations than how well it did, that could be the last voyage for a while.

And even then, rebooting every couple years is the new thing... Spider-Man was a very successful series of films and they dropped everything to start over.

Anything can happen... and until another film hits the theaters, I'm not expecting much. :shifty:
 
Isn't a a sequel already on the schedule?

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xuir2cpNuQ[/yt]
 
So no matter how we see STXI, if the studio had higher expectations than how well it did, that could be the last voyage for a while.

IIRC, the film exceeded Paramount's expectations and they have already greenlit a sequel.

"Superman Returns" failed to meet Warner's expectations, and there's been no hurry to order a sequel.
 
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