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Why wasn't Rand given a bigger role in the movies?

As I understand it, Leonard Nimoy was very kind to her, getting her onboard for cameos whenever he could, and of course she was given a relatively large role in STVI.

Well, he had his own battles with the bottle in the 70s.
That notwithstanding, everyone has good things to say about working with Nimoy.
 
Whatever her acting skill level was in 1966--they deteriorated by the time of the movies--terrible in the Voyager episode. Practice makes perfect.
 
Whatever her acting skill level was in 1966--they deteriorated by the time of the movies--terrible in the Voyager episode. Practice makes perfect.

Age can dull certain actors' skills and by Voyager Grace was in her late sixties? It's not a surprise that she was about on par with a Babylon 5 extra given that she only acted occasionally. It was still great to see her again.

Credit to Bill Shatner, despite being 80 he is as sharp as ever. He could give Betty White a run for her money! :eek:
 
That's my point. A couple of cameo parts since 1966 left her completely bereft of acting experience by 1996!

Had she acted continuously--she might have been real good. I happen to think that Nichelle Nichols skill diminished over the years, as well.
 
As for McCoy, I think there was a mention that he'd need to go on leave for something in the near future, although I might be confusing that with some other story.

You might be thinking of James Blish's adaptaton of WNMHGB. Blish did his writeup of the show very late in the series, and explained McCoy;s absence by saying that he was on a "special study leave". He offered no other explanation for the radical personnel changes in the episode from the body of the rest of the series.
 
You might be thinking of James Blish's adaptaton of WNMHGB. Blish did his writeup of the show very late in the series, and explained McCoy;s absence by saying that he was on a "special study leave".

He was first, but numerous comics and novels have used it since.
 
As for McCoy, I think there was a mention that he'd need to go on leave for something in the near future, although I might be confusing that with some other story.

You might be thinking of James Blish's adaptaton of WNMHGB. Blish did his writeup of the show very late in the series, and explained McCoy;s absence by saying that he was on a "special study leave". He offered no other explanation for the radical personnel changes in the episode from the body of the rest of the series.

No, more likely I'm thinking of Mike W. Barr's version of Kirk's first mission in DC Comics' Star Trek Annual #1 (of Volume 1). I've read that one recently and I know he has McCoy mention future plans to take a leave of absence for Joanna's graduation or something.
 
A couple of cameo parts since 1966 left her completely bereft of acting experience by 1996!
And convention appearances involve no acting? ;)

*smile*

Often, I've thought (and said occasionally) that select actors or actresses should call upon their acting skills when at conventions. All too often, one sees their real feelings. How hard is it to pretend to like us?
 
Whatever her acting skill level was in 1966--they deteriorated by the time of the movies--terrible in the Voyager episode. Practice makes perfect.

I finally found the time to give the first four "New Voyages"/"Phase II" fan films ("Come What May", "In Harm's Way", "To Serve All My Days" and "World Enough and Time") a proper screening yesterday, having only seen random snatches of each before.

I was very pleased with all of them - and Grace Lee Whitney was looking more comfortable in the Sulu story, "World Enough and Time", than she did in "Flashback". I didn't know she was going to be in it!
 
Yeah the Sulu episode was some very decent sci fi. Evidence that George can play Sulu really well if given something other than technobabble to spout. In fact I think it's often the technobabble that flummoxes the older actors. Nichols was fine in Heroes, as was Takei whereas Nimoy's delivery was a bit stilted in the NuTrek movie and Fringe because of the techno elements IMHO.
 
Nimoy's delivery was a bit stilted in the NuTrek movie

To me it seemed like he was still wearing-in a new set of dentures. Maybe time travel through a black hole - or exposure to red matter - shrinks your gums?

Being 80 will do that to you. I hope I'm walking at 80, much less pursuing my career and bringing happiness to many.

unrelated: I've known several people who just couldn't resist alcohol and really got messed up. One died. I enjoy a beer, but I'd sure wave the magic wand that made it so alcohol never existed or had no effect on us.
 
I would dearly love to see Gracie play Rand again in more fan films like she did with George in the Phase II episode, or in the VOY flashback which I thought she was grand in. I shame those who bemouth her saying she had little or no talent. She has been through a LOT and it is a miracle that she still can act in the Trek productions she has done since TOS. I think she is full of talent.
 
I shame those who bemouth her saying she had little or no talent. She has been through a LOT and it is a miracle that she still can act in the Trek productions she has done since TOS. I think she is full of talent.

She does comedy well. Check her out in "Some Like it Hot", with Marilyn Monroe; one of the very first "Bewitched" episodes; King Tut's gum-chewin' moll in "Batman"; or a gum-chewin' bimbo in the Gary Coleman movie, "The Boy with the 200 IQ".

Her gum-chewin' secretary shtick got her into huge trouble during the early days of TMP. Roddenberry used to set her up to play "new, revolting secretary" as new people joined the production staff. Harold Livingston took it well, but Robert Wise didn't - and he didn't want "Kirk's geisha girl" wearing any glamour makeup as the transporter operator. Grace used to wonder if Gene's practical joke added to the friction.
 
Never heard that story before, do enlighten me.

That's pretty much it. Gene was always setting up new production team members with practical jokes. He once had hulking Ted Cassidy, in Ruk makeup, measure him for a suit while he interviewed a new writer.

On her first day of filming TMP, Grace arrived on set in the same glam makeup all the female cast were getting. Robert Wise took one look and ordered her back to scrub it all off. I guess he felt a tech person running the transporter wouldn't need glam makeup (esp. eyeshadow and extended lashes). GLW was upset when the publicity stills came out, because Nichelle and Majel looked quite glamorous in their pics, and Persis Khambatta had a contractual clause that all her publicity stills would be sent off for air-brushing.
 
Never heard that story before, do enlighten me.

That's pretty much it. Gene was always setting up new production team members with practical jokes. He once had hulking Ted Cassidy, in Ruk makeup, measure him for a suit while he interviewed a new writer.

Other way around. Cassidy, in Ruk makeup, pretended to be Roddenberry during an appointment with a suit salesman (with GR himself pretending to be part of the production team). This was because Roddenberry wanted an objective opinion on whether the makeup was scary enough, so he sprung it on the unsuspecting salesman. But the salesman gamely proceeded with his sales pitch, and when "Gene" agreed to buy a dozen suits, the salesman was just about to take his formidable measurements when GR and the others broke up and let him in on the joke. (See Inside Star Trek, pp. 212-214.)
 
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