Why *was* the bridge turbolift offset?

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  1. uniderth

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    Maybe we didn't. Is that in the engineering hull? You don't know.

    Oh, you mean the Intergalactic Department Store.

    Children, children, please. It's pointless to squabble over this, becasue everyone knows the Remastered version doesn't contribute to canon at all and can be completely disregarded.
     
  2. ChasFink

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    There's an in-universe explanation for this. Between films she was in a terrible accident and underwent massive reconstructive surgery. The doctors didn't quite get her looks right, but she liked this look better - and somehow her request to the captain for a pay raise went away.
     
  3. CorporalCaptain

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    Why bother with the terrible accident?

    In a world in which Kirk can be convincingly disguised as a Romulan centurion, Saavik could easily have simply elected to change her looks, and social mores inhibited people from commenting on it.

    It would take only minimal effort to get even sillier. For that matter, maybe her TWOK looks were the unnatural ones.

    Come to think of it, cosmetic surgery could explain a lot of facial similarities throughout the galaxy. "I'd like the Woodward look!" "Coming right up!" We've never heard about it, because they do not discuss it, with outsiders or anybody else, besides their cosmetic surgeon.

    Or all this is just something only those of us on this side of the fourth wall notice.
     
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  4. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    Don't we have a sticky or FAQ on this subject? ;) Seems this topic comes up once every seven years. :lol:
     
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  5. uniderth

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    So everyone in the 23rd-24th centuries had surgery to look like 20th century actors?

    I dig it!
     
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  6. Mytran

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    Actually, they weren't. The season one Engine Room was built straight aligned with the studio wall. The season two version was OFFSET to bring it into line with the curvature of the corridor (see what I did there?) :-)

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  7. Maurice

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    ^^^ I believe the rooms to the left of the 1st season engine room/gym is a makeup/wardrobe trailer. It likely got moved out of the stage when the sets got rearranged.
     
  8. Mytran

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    We can only imagine their reactions when told that they would have to decamp into the car park to make room for even more sets! :guffaw:
     
  9. Shawnster

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    There was no brig scene in season 1?
     
  10. Galileo7

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    Right, Charlie X.
     
  11. Mytran

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    There was also a brig in WNMHGB, but it was on a planet so it might not count ;)

    Was the Charlie X scene an actual brig? I thought it was just a modification done to his cabin
     
  12. Maurice

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    I doubt it bothered anyone. When I was on the Paramount lot during the TNG era the makeup trailers appeared to be right across from the soundstage doors.
     
  13. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    Actually, the stage plans for the episode ”Charlie X” state that it is his quarters. Plus this is the same set used for Kodos in “The Conscience of the King”, so it might be V.I.P. or guest quarters.
    But if one wants it to be a brig then that can work too.
     
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  15. Mytran

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    Also, the original script for Charlie X specifically said they were modifying his existing quarters to contain a forcefield:

    KIRK: Do you think a force field will hold him?
    SPOCK: It's worth a try... but I doubt if he would let himself be lured into a detention cell. There is a possibility... his quarters are on deck five... we could rig a force field at his room door... All the lab circuitry runs through the main corridor on deck five... we could use that. If we can manage it, we could have the field activated when he was inside... his door would look the same...
    KIRK: How long will the work take?
    SPOCK: Seventy-two hours minimum.
    KIRK: It's going to be a long seventy-two hours, Mr. Spock. Get on it.
    http://www.orionpressfanzines.com/articles/charlie.htm
     
  16. uniderth

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    Also, Kirk told Charlie that he was confined to his quarters and the Security Guards were going to take him there.
     
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    The forcefield seemed like more of the usual brilliantly improvised jury rigging to me. The cut dialog meshes well with what was shown (and not told) on screen: a Sciences division technician is working on the main junction circuitry--or some such thing--in the main corridor of the crew deck:

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    SPOCK: I'll activate the force field myself. You can return to your section. ​
     
  18. CorporalCaptain

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    Good points. I'd always wonder why the heck Spock said that. But if the intent was to do something sneaky to his quarters, then that makes total sense. Also, it adds to the story that they were trying to trick him.
     
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  19. uniderth

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    It also make his question, "aren't you coming in?" make more sense.
     
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  20. Harvey

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    In the shooting schedule for "Charlie X," the location in question is identified as:

    INT. CORRIDOR-INT.
    CHARLIE'S QUARTERS
    OUTSIDE CHARLIE'S ROOM

    In this one, definitely not a brig.
     
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