Why was Seven never referred to as Annika?

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  1. Adm_Hawthorne

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    That was accidental. Her mother didn't even know she was pregnant until after they were all stuck in the Delta Quadrant. So, I'm not sure that applies.
     
  2. Good Will Riker

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    Seven never actually denied it.


    After all, she did accept her grandmother calling her "Annika" and even remembered her when they communicated with one another through subspace. :borg:
     
  3. kimc

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    That was her aunt and it was quite the awkward conversation.
     
  4. Good Will Riker

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    If that is her aunt, then I would not want to know what her grandmother looks like.
     
  5. Miss Chicken

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    As someone has pointed out Samantha Wildman didn't intentionally impose such a life on her daughter.

    Also Voyager was a lot larger ship than the Raven was and Naomi had over 100 crew members to interact with instead of just two. Though for the first few years there weren't any other children Naomi was eventually joined by the Borg children.
     
  6. Brennyren

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    I didn't have any sympathy for them at all -- in my opinion, they got exactly what they deserved. It's one thing to be reckless and take your chances with the Borg when it's you and one other consenting adult at risk, and quite another when there's an innocent child involved. Seven was clearly fighting down rage in "The Raven," and who could blame her? She was the innocent victim in the situation.

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  7. exodus

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    ^^Her rage about that really came out again in "Child's Play", when having to deal with it again with Icheb and his parents.
     
  8. ancient

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    I'd imagine there are a lot of shitty memories attached to that name. digging up the past and all that.
     
  9. Niemz

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    I believe it was her choice
     
  10. kimc

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    I think Icheb's parents were worst. Sure, Seven's were idiots but Icheb's were just plain cruel.
     
  11. exodus

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    Word!

    That birthed that poor boy to die just so they could live.
     
  12. Miss Chicken

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    It wasn't even so that they could live - as they could have moved away from the planet they were on. They birthed that poor boy to die just so they could keep their land.
     
  13. K-Star

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    Hugh seemed to adapt to being called Hugh instead of 3 of 5 or whatever in a relatively short period of time... Why wouldn't Seven have been able to adapt? Though I specifically remember her saying that she felt it was "inappropriate" to go back to being called Annika.
     
  14. Miss Chicken

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    But Hugh was given a new name by a friend, whreas Seven being called Annika would have been making her bear the name from a painful past.
     
  15. Anwar

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    Hugh also was practically a new entity, unlike Seven who was assimilated.

    Hugh was one of those Borgs who're grown in Borg nurseries and Borg since the beginning. Seven was a human child who assimilated and then seperated.
     
  16. exodus

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    I saw it as the exact opposite.

    Hugh was newly assimilated, thus less resistant to being seperated from the hive mind. While Seven had been Borg most of her life and all she knew was the collective, so being disconnected from them was like loosing part of herself.
     
  17. Anwar

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    But then why didn't Hugh get back any memories of his pre-Borg life? I always figured he was one of those baby Borgs Riker found on the Borg ship.
     
  18. exodus

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    Why wasn't he aggressive?

    He was onboard the ship of the people the Borg wanted to assimilate the most, yet he never once tried. Why?

    Answer to that & your question: Because the writing staff hadn't thought that far ahead on how a Borg personality should be yet.
     
  19. Anwar

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    He didn't act like that because he wasn't an independent Drone type like Seven had been. He had never had independent thoughts in his life and was overwhelmed by them, becoming an individual.

    Seven already had individual traits while still Borged when she became a "Speaker", so it was nothing truly new to her. Also she had been a mentally developing child when her develoment was co-opted by the Borg, so she was like a human child who'd been brainwashed (which is what happened).

    Hugh wasn't a developing child whose development was co-opted, but just someone who never had any development and was now experiencing life for the first time and began to question the path he had always followed.
     
  20. Brennyren

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    I think that's extremely pertinent. Hugh wanted a new name, and received it from someone he liked and trusted. "Annika," on the other hand, had been bestowed by parents who Seven felt, quite understandably, had betrayed her. And since "The Raven" took place not long after Seven had become part of Voyager's "collective," Janeway certainly would have been able to understand why Seven might resent being called by that name, and so wouldn't press the issue.

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