Why was Seven never referred to as Annika?

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  1. Candlelight

    Candlelight Admiral Admiral

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    I mean, they were all about trying to re-humanise her and remove all Borg traces, yet they kept her Borg name.

    Was there a reason given to keep it at Seven and not enforce Annika?
     
  2. Adm_Hawthorne

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    I'm not sure they were trying to remove all Borg traces. I seemed to me that, in the end, the Borg part was as much the individual as the human. I think they saw that as well. The option was always there for Seven, but, ultimately, Annika stopped existing when she was assimilated. What "remains" is a blend of both Borg and Human... Seven.
     
  3. 14thDoctor

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    I believe it was her choice, and she was more comfortable as Seven.

    She was kind of a hypocrite though, making the Borg children go by their real names.
     
  4. sunfire

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    Probably, the producers of VOY wanted to highlight her differences; her being a borg among starfleet personnel. Logically, I would conclude she lived most of her life as 7 of 9 of 2 (which became 7 - like a human name); so she was used to this, and that is why it was continued. Also, does she ever get a rank? I don't think so, so it is a name (7), that also seems to include a type of rank.
     
  5. Maverick

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    Everytime I hear someone call her Seven, I think of Seinfeld :) "Seven Costanza"
     
  6. Candlelight

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    Cos Lieutenant Seven sounded silly... :)

    Still, in order to highlight the differences they needed a catsuit so I doubt they would've noticed anything different.
     
  7. Richard1701

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    I think that once you get used to someone calling you something it tends to stick with you. It is kind of the same with Seven but to an extreme level. She was Anika until she was assimilated, and that was at a very young age. From that point on, as she grew up being Borg, she 'adapted' (pardon the pun) to that name, just like perhaps we would adapt to a nickname. I remember in school no one ever called me by my actual name. On the rare occasion that they did I was taken aback. It's strange.
    You also have to bear in mind that she was condtioned and programmed into being called by that designation. That programming is still present, even after 'becoming more human', and I believe that there is more Borg within her than human.
    Also, the process of rehabilitating her and reintroducing her to humanity, is a slow and delicate process. She would tell them when she is ready to be called Anika.
     
  8. Defcon

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    Shouldn't that be Lieutenant of Nine? ;)
     
  9. homoaffectional

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    Well, the captain and crew of Voyager declined to enforce her given human name, but the Quarrens involved in the illicit labor smuggling operation sure did! ("Workforce Parts I & II")
     
  10. exodus

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    She's been "Seven" most of he adult life. She explained that the name "Annika Hanson" held no meaning for her because she will always see herself as Borg more than human.
     
  11. WillCAD

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    Makes me think of Married With Children.

    We named him Seven, 'cause we had one, two three, four... seven kids.

    Oh God, I have another child!

     
  12. nx1701g

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    ^ Coincidentally the kid that played Seven Wanker-Bundy would later appear on Enterprise as the 17 year old Sim.
     
  13. EMHMark613

    EMHMark613 Commodore Commodore

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    Actually, in Author Author, when Seven spoke to her aunt, her aunt called her Annika.

    And if I'm not mistaken, she was referred to as Annika in Unimatrix 0.
     
  14. RaulMacca

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    Yeah her aunt and axum caled her annika, as did neelix in bliss, where he goes....Annika, Annika Hansen...There is no one here by that name....thats a shame because I've got a letter for her"
     
  15. Brennyren

    Brennyren Commodore Commodore

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    I always assumed she went by Seven because she preferred not to use the name her parents had given her. And once Janeway found out what her parents were like, maybe she didn't blame Seven! (What kind of idiots take their small child into such a dangerous situation anyway? :mad:)

    Of course, her older relatives would use the name they knew.

    Brennyren
     
  16. exodus

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    Another good point. :thumbsup:
     
  17. kimc

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    That's an excellent point and one of the reasons I found it hard to by sympathetic towards Seven's parents. Idiots. :p
     
  18. Blueicus

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    Even during one of the episodes Seven was resentful of her parents for taking her along... but considering that both parents would've probably been gone for a few years studying the Borg, I guess clearly they were vastly overconfident or hopeful that they would make peace with the Borg.
     
  19. Miss Chicken

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    What parents would subject their child to such a lonely life - on a small craft for years without other children, only her parents for company. Even if she hadn't been assimilated by the Borg I imagined Annika would have had problems socialising when she got back to Earth.
     
  20. exodus

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    What about Niomi Wildman?