Why the Corvette Actually Makes Sense (SEE: TWOK)

[chardman]

If Kirk was truly fond of antiques at that young age, he wouldn't have driven the car over a cliff.

Yeah but he was twelve and driving a vehicle that was 300 years old! Something tells me that there aren't any driving schools in the 23rd Century.

-Shawn

And yet the kid knows exactly how to put that car into an expert powerslide. The kid clearly knows how to drive like a pro, and presumably how to read warning signs as well. It therefore seems unlikely that he was doing anything other than intentionally destroying that car.

As to this fitting into the OP's theory: Perhaps he later regrets destroying this rare car, and this eventually leads to a greater respect for older, rare and difficult to replace items. In this way, the event could plant the seed of his future love of antiques.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

As to this fitting into the OP's theory: Perhaps he later regrets destroying this rare car, and this eventually leads to a greater respect for older, rare and difficult to replace items. In this way, the event could plant the seed of his future love of antiques.

My guess is that the sequence was designed entirely (100%) for use in the trailer, in an -- apparently somewhat successful -- attempt to lull the general audience into a position of interest without letting on that they were seeing a trailer for Star Trek, and that it has absolutely nothing (0%) to do with Kirk's eventual affection for antiques.

 

[dkehler]

If Kirk was truly fond of antiques at that young age, he wouldn't have driven the car over a cliff.

Yeah but he was twelve and driving a vehicle that was 300 years old! Something tells me that there aren't any driving schools in the 23rd Century.

-Shawn

And yet the kid knows exactly how to put that car into an expert powerslide. The kid clearly knows how to drive like a pro, and presumably how to read warning signs as well. It therefore seems unlikely that he was doing anything other than intentionally destroying that car.

As to this fitting into the OP's theory: Perhaps he later regrets destroying this rare car, and this eventually leads to a greater respect for older, rare and difficult to replace items. In this way, the event could plant the seed of his future love of antiques.

Or maybe it's just a typical Hollywood cheesy action scene with no logical basis in the real world.

 

[dkehler]

As to this fitting into the OP's theory: Perhaps he later regrets destroying this rare car, and this eventually leads to a greater respect for older, rare and difficult to replace items. In this way, the event could plant the seed of his future love of antiques.

My guess is that the sequence was designed entirely (100%) for use in the trailer, in an -- apparently somewhat successful -- attempt to lull the general audience into a position of interest without letting on that they were seeing a trailer for Star Trek, and that it has absolutely nothing (0%) to do with Kirk eventual affection for antiques.

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll edit that sequence from the actual film. Because the rest of the trailer actually looked kind of promising.

 

[miraclefan]

NAAA I have a feeling that the Corvette scene WILL be in the film.I don't know why I think that..I just do.

 

[SalvorHardin]

The car scene is in the film. It's a confirmed fact, there's no doubt about it.

 

[dkehler]

The car scene is in the film. It's a confirmed fact, there's no doubt about it.

That's a shame.

 

[SalvorHardin]

The car scene is in the film. It's a confirmed fact, there's no doubt about it.

That's a shame.

Not really, but we are all entitled to our opinions.

 

[FordSVT]

Or maybe it's just a typical Hollywood cheesy action scene with no logical basis in the real world.

It's funny. Almost all combat in Trek is cheesy and has no logical basis in the real world.

 

[dkehler]

Or maybe it's just a typical Hollywood cheesy action scene with no logical basis in the real world.

It's funny. Almost all combat in Trek is cheesy and has no logical basis in the real world.

I think you're overstating it somewhat. Also, this is not exactly a combat scene.

In any event, it doesn't exactly put the Kirk character in a positive light or at least it makes him look foolish and unstable, given that there were probably better/safer ways to destroy the car.

 

[Grup]

http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=74845&highlight=subliminal

Earlier stuff on the Vette

 

[Scorned]

Dude if you look at the kid driving the car he looks to be younger than 16. He doesn't even have a license. So how or better yet does a 16 year old want an old car for? He starts to collect antiques at 16? That is a bit stretching!

 

[Messianni]

Dude if you look at the kid driving the car he looks to be younger than 16. He doesn't even have a license. So how or better yet does a 16 year old want an old car for? He starts to collect antiques at 16? That is a bit stretching!

You're the one stretching... for any slight reason to find displeasure with this film.

What, exactly, is wrong with a child having an interest in cars? A lot of young males have interests in cars. Not only that, where exactly is it stated that this was a car in a collection belonging to him? Nowhere.

 

[STIntergalactic]

I just want to know why, if Kirk is such a good driver at that age, why does he have so much trouble driving a car around in "A Piece of the Action"?

 

[Tyberius]

I just want to know why, if Kirk is such a good driver at that age, why does he have so much trouble driving a car around in "A Piece of the Action"?

Discussed elsewhere, but the transmission type in the two cars are markedly different.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Dude if you look at the kid driving the car he looks to be younger than 16. He doesn't even have a license. So how or better yet does a 16 year old want an old car for? He starts to collect antiques at 16? That is a bit stretching!

Perhaps the antique car collection belonged to young Jimmy's father, and Drunkle Frank is simply the person to whom it now belongs, since Jimmy's father died.

Perhaps the Admiral Kirk we saw in TWoK got his love of antiques from his father.

I just want to know why, if Kirk is such a good driver at that age, why does he have so much trouble driving a car around in "A Piece of the Action"?

1. What Tyberius said above.
or
2. The car in "A Piece of the Action" was constructed by aliens based solely on a book about 1920's gangsters, so of course it would be hard for anyone to drive without practice, even those who drove a stick shift when they were 12 years of age. Actually, the Sigma Lotians did a pretty good job building that car, seeing they didn't have any real instructions.
or
3. It's just one more of many inconsistencies in TOS and Star Trek in general.

 

[3D Master]

I can understand smaller items such as books, spectacles etc. surviving.

But a car takes some looking after, especially if one considers the devastation caused by the wars that have taken place between the 20th and 23rd centuries.

Who was preserving antiquities? Were they shipped off-world?

You know, I don't really see the problem with a car like that surviving until the 23rd century.

However, being so uncaringly handled that a 12-year-old can steal it and drive it off a cliff, however...

That car, especially still functional - unless it's just a replica - is PRICELESS. A functional 300-year-old car. You think anyone who owns a car like that, doesn't keep it behind the most rigid security and preservative measures?

How the hell did a boy get his hands on it, and how did just one biker cop go after it, and too late to stop Kirk from driving all the way to a cliff and driving it over the edge? I'd be guessing they'd beam a friggin' road block in front of him to the moment they realized what the kid was planning, to keep the car from going over the edge; and that'd be just the beginning. Hell, they'd probably just beam the car up and place it somewhere far away from anything that can destroy it; no doubt with a new driving behind the wheel to bring it to a stop.

Whoever owned that car, will hate Jim Kirk with a fiery passion for the rest of his life.

Or maybe it's just a typical Hollywood cheesy action scene with no logical basis in the real world.

Which would be the problem, wouldn't it.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Whoever owned that car, will hate Jim Kirk with a fiery passion for the rest of his life.

Probably already does:

Spoiler: Trek XI

It's the drunk uncle's car. You can see his picture on the license plate. Why are we even still debating whose car it is? I thought everyone knew by now it was Uncle Frank's car. And it's obvious why Jimmy is intentionally trying to wreck it: Payback for the abuse that drunk Frank committed against him.

 

[Amaris]

Whoever owned that car, will hate Jim Kirk with a fiery passion for the rest of his life.

Probably already does:

Spoiler: Trek XI

It's the drunk uncle's car. You can see his picture on the license plate. Why are we even still debating whose car it is? I thought everyone knew by now it was Uncle Frank's car. And it's obvious why Jimmy is intentionally trying to wreck it: Payback for the abuse that drunk Frank committed against him.

That makes sense.


J.

 

[QuasarVM]

Where's Kirk's antiques during TOS? I only saw two sculptures and a painting in his quarters in TOS...