I wish I had seen Titan A. E. on the big screen, but I hadn't heard of it until I came across the DVD in a video store.
Why not go animated?
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Treasure Planet was also an awesome cartoon.
I don't think the financial failure of Titan A.E and Treasure Planet has anything to do with brand recognition. I think it has everything to do with the kids just not being in to hand drawn animation like they were just a decade prior. Toy Story changed everything.
I don't think the financial failure of Titan A.E and Treasure Planet has anything to do with brand recognition. I think it has everything to do with the kids just not being in to hand drawn animation like they were just a decade prior. Toy Story changed everything.
Yeah, becuase its going to be really hard to with a bunch of different variants of trek characters, vehicles, ships, and play sets for something trek with the nine bijillion ones that would typically show up in a trek production
That just occurred to me the other day too. If "got to move more toys!" is has to be a motivator for an animated series, that actually wouldn't be that hard of a sell for a Star Trek series. More Enterprise toys, more Klingon battlecruisers, phaser toys, costumes, tricorder props... if you make "Seek out strange new worlds" seem cool enough, you'll have kids running all over the playground with their phasers and tricorders playing Kirk and Spock, blasting legions of forehead aliens on the swing set and discovering secret power crystals on the slides.
I have been wondering if animated Trek could be a sort of anthology set in the Trek universe, with different movies having different characters, different ships, different missions....
I was thinking that the safest bet would be Kirk and Spock again. But that implies same-old/same-old.....
I was pondering this problem, and then I remembered a TOS short story I had read many moons ago.
An anthology, Star Trek: The New Voyages 2, copyright 1977. The story was "The Procrustean Petard" by Sondra Marshak and Myrna Cl\ulbreath.
The blurb from the book:
"Lured by a siren song into a starship trap, the Enterprise emerges with the sex of everyone on board reversed."
I was pondering this problem, and then I remembered a TOS short story I had read many moons ago.
An anthology, Star Trek: The New Voyages 2, copyright 1977. The story was "The Procrustean Petard" by Sondra Marshak and Myrna Cl\ulbreath.
The blurb from the book:
"Lured by a siren song into a starship trap, the Enterprise emerges with the sex of everyone on board reversed."
Yeah, I somewhat remember that from way back. Even then it struck me as something written by someone with a, uh, odd way of looking at things.
Indeed, Warped 9.
It occurred to me that this story would draw attention to animated Trek.
It occurred to me that this story would draw attention to animated Trek.
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An animated movie would be something Trek hasn't done at all.
I think animation would be great, a 'logical' way to bring the series back in a way which would make a lot of impact. I think people would actually look at it with kinder eyes than a live-action Trek. Because putting TAS aside, it would be something different, that the franchise hasn't really done much of before.....
An animated movie would be something Trek hasn't done at all.
I think animation would be great, a 'logical' way to bring the series back in a way which would make a lot of impact. I think people would actually look at it with kinder eyes than a live-action Trek. Because putting TAS aside, it would be something different, that the franchise hasn't really done much of before.....
Hmm. I can't see CBS licensing Paramount to produce and release a animated Trek feature film that was NOT an sci-fi action film just like the nuTrek films since 2009.
The problem with Star Trek feature films is they have to be scifi action movies to sell tickets to get people to come to the cinema.
I think what we all want is a new Trek TV series.
6,10,13,24-part episodic storytelling. I would prefer a 13-episode season series myself.
If CBS made a Trek animated movie that was NOT a scifi-action movie and made it VOD (video-on-demand) and an event for a one-weekend only at the cinema it would still be niche event and they would not put marketing money into it so I can't see it doing well financially.
Trek TV works best as live-action but that is expensive. I'd like to see a hybrid with green-screen virtual sets when it is not the bridge, personal quarters, or engineering sets.
Lol...sorry, I just had to reply to this.
YES.
Try taking a 6 year old to a movie she doesn't want to see. It could end with police involvement.
I think if an animated series came out I wouldn't watch it unless it was all new characters for the regulars. Vanguard might make a good animated series (or even live action) - as an example (it would have to be modified and I am not sure I want a space station series again) - but at some point there would have to be a decision on how adult the series would be.
I just don't want to see rehash of the old series'. I wouldn't mind some cross over, but why not expand the universe? Fill in the gaps maybe, but focus on different ships and crews. Enterprise may be important, but it is not the entire federation and it can't be the only important ship.
Anyways, just my thoughts.
I just don't want to see rehash of the old series'. I wouldn't mind some cross over, but why not expand the universe? Fill in the gaps maybe, but focus on different ships and crews. Enterprise may be important, but it is not the entire federation and it can't be the only important ship.
Anyways, just my thoughts.
I agree with you. Earlier I said I wouldn't watch it if it didn't have all new characters (some crossover ok). But you are right. Properly executed, I would my eat words gladly!
However, I guess my issue is that I don't see the broad appeal of continuing any of the former series. What would be new? TNG ran for a long time (7 years!) and even I tired of it - it ended with the least stagnation of any of the series (my opinion of course), but it still got old - and ratings dropped while it was active. Sure, it did well in syndication and I stream it now occasionally. But, with a new series I want "newness". What would be the "newness" in your vision?
As I said, so much is in the execution.
I think some people believe or assume that I want TOS brought back as close as possible to the original. But I'm not naive because you can't get back to the original as it was made. The closest you can is in the form of a fan production which we already have. But as cool as that is I don't think it could ever fly in terms of mass appeal.
No, whatever new Trek comes to be it has to be a form of reboot/reimagining yet there are many possibilities inherent in that.
The significant factor in going back to TOS or TNG is that of recognition. That has strong drawing power to it. But that isn't to say that something with all new characters couldn't work, but that it might have a bit harder time making an impact.
I don't dislike JJtrek because it's a reboot. I dislike it because of how it was done. I didn't dislike ENT because it was a prequel, but rather how it was done. In each case the creators took an approach I felt was flawed, but that isn't to say a different approach wouldn't appeal to me.
I could quibble with certain aspects of Axanar (based on what I've seen so far), but I'm intrigued by what they're trying to do. Axanar could end up being like some Trek books I've read where I feel some things were gotten wrong, but the story and much of the ideas in the book resonated with what I'd have liked to see in Trek.
My personal feeling is that while I think it's entirely possible to reboot TOS or TNG and make it much like the originals I think it would be better to reimagine them in a more up to date way. That was my thinking when I propsed a "TOS in the 29th century" idea. I took essential elements of TOS and TNG and reinterpreted much of it while stitching the two closer together. It would have a good dose of familiarity in the sense of evoking the originals while being entirely new and of its own continuity rather than the original Prime or JJtrek's continuity. It would respect the original in ideas and sensibilities, but avoid mucking up the original by going forward as its own thing.
And you could do the same thing with entirely new characters.
As far as I'm concerned the only way to return to the original Prime continuity (which was fluid enough in its own way) would be to stay away from the TOS era with Kirk and company or the TNG era with Picard and company.
And this is why in some respects ENT was a bigger disappointment for me than JJtrek because there was so much potential in the idea and they blew it. They chose to play it safe rather than be really creative and think outside the box they were so familiar with.
@Warped9
I really would like to see an animated series in any of the ST Universe eras (including just post ENT). Just not sure I would be into a total revisit of a particular series.
On another note, you have me curious to revisit current fan fiction. It's been more than a year.
I appreciate this. The thing with me is that revisiting a series (outside of fan fiction) seems like a dead end. You are correct that a good execution could break through that, but the moment you get money and big companies in the picture - I question how well executed it would be. Recent history as you point out....
I could see that.
I don't dislike all of ENT. It was a good show (just good) - but really the creators I think were at first chicken about things and later got desperate and grasping. With J-trek they got chicken for sure. This may not be the place, but at some point I would be curious for you point of view. They seem to always feel (starting with PhaseII) that the creators needed to be liberal with the look and feel, but timid with the stories. The entire first season of TNG was disappointing to me because it seemed lost and out of place. But thats not for here.
I really would like to see an animated series in any of the ST Universe eras (including just post ENT). Just not sure I would be into a total revisit of a particular series.
On another note, you have me curious to revisit current fan fiction. It's been more than a year.
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