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Why is uplifting lower species a bad thing?

Yes, give a child a high powered rifle or a chainsaw without training and instruction and you might do more harm than good.

But give him instruction and he will be able to chop a lot more trees down than a child with no chainsaw. Train him with that rifle and he'll be able to hunt. Then that kid is a lot better off than the one with no chainsaw or rifle.
 
I suppose so, but atleast he'd have a choice. Meanwhile the other kid can barely chop one tree down and will likely never see a chainsaw invented in his lifetime.
 
The whole idea of higher and lower species is parochial and racist. Owning ray guns and spaceships is a sucky way to measure anything other than the quality of one's distractions.
 
Medical care and the ability to feed everybody is pretty far from distractions. And the ability to defend themselves from other species. That's quality of life stuff.

There are higher and lower levels of technology, they say it on the show frequently when they come across weaker ships. Not to mention when they save entire civilizations by breaking the prime directive and using more advanced tech. Not sure why that is racist.
 
That's an old twilight zone episode!!!
The hell you say...! :p

I am a big fan of the old black and white TZ episodes. :techman:

One of the most creepiest and thought provoking shows there was/is. You can't beat it.

Medical care and the ability to feed everybody is pretty far from distractions. And the ability to defend themselves from other species. That's quality of life stuff.

There are higher and lower levels of technology, they say it on the show frequently when they come across weaker ships. Not to mention when they save entire civilizations by breaking the prime directive and using more advanced tech. Not sure why that is racist.

Everybody in their right minds should want to live in a technology advanced society.

But the terms has a bad connotation to it. All historical. When cultures that had more advanced tech it usually went to their egos and eventually the terms "inferior" and "superior" would appear.

And all the baggage that came with it. (Condescending attitudes, lower respect etc)

Look at certain early episodes of TNG like The last Outpost, or Code of Honor and you can sense the subtle attitudes.
 
Yes, give a child a high powered rifle or a chainsaw without training and instruction and you might do more harm than good.

But give him instruction and he will be able to chop a lot more trees down than a child with no chainsaw. Train him with that rifle and he'll be able to hunt. Then that kid is a lot better off than the one with no chainsaw or rifle.

...And then possibly deforest the continent and destroy the ecosystem that sustains him. We see that happening now with a species that we inherently think we understand. You throw tools at aliens, who likely do not think the way we do, and the results would be even more unpredictable.
 
I was under the impression that we were discussing the latter, "giving technology to a species that has a little."
Well firstly: Civilizations depend on a degree of stability: Rapid breakneck advance would be destabilizing and potentially destructive

Depending on the countries of the planet: You could easily align with the wrong one and give them the means to conquer the planet and impose a dictatorship that would be intractable by the population.
 
I don't think the selling/giving of technology is the problem here. People catch on usually pretty quick. I've someone who was a doctor and yet his great grand father used to be a witchdoctor in one of those tribes who still lived the old way. Ye he was a doctor graduated with honors. A few generations separated him from someone who believed that you could heal someone by chasing the evil spirit. The problem is the invasion that usually comes with the territory of giving technology. That's the part that should be controlled.
 
If you give advanced technology to a culture with war still on their minds, they might use it to destroy themselves.
Okay, and what if you teach them basic hygene, nutrition, when to rotate their crops, what their women should eat different when pregnant, how to dig water wells and construct simply water pumps.

You know, stuff like that?

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.


Very true. There are always positive changes you can point to in these kinds of situations, like the end of foot-binding. Of course, those are also the kinds of things imperialists use to justify their domination. The Cardassians always like to point to the infrastructure they brought Bajor in justifying their enslavement.

Obviously, it was horrible to bind young women's feet in tiny shoes order to keep them from developing to their full size and make them easier to marry off. But attempting to instruct people to stop doing it would just be ignored, and attempting to force them would involve brutality and would probably fail. Only slow cultural drift and soft influence eventually eradicated the practice.

If you want to give a less technologically developed culture better non-violent technology, there's the problem of who you give it to. Whoever gets it is going to have a major economic advantage over everybody else on the planet. Try to give it to everybody, whoever learns to manufacture it best is going to have the advantage, and that economic advantage becomes a military advantage or cultural domination very quickly.
 
Yeah, basically there's this advance civilization who finds less developed civilizations, brings them all kinds of technology, cures their diseases, etc, but then they secretly sterilize the entire population so the planet can be converted to farmland in a hundred or so years.
 
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