Why Is The Solution To School Problems Always "more money"
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Most people never work in their degree field anyway - management consultant companies prefer people with engineering and maths backgrounds or something like PPE to those with generalist business or management degrees but as a general rule, yes. If you don't get those entry level positions within a certain time frame, you've pretty much missed the boat.
It's way too difficult to judge the worth of any degree these days. The job market isn't really that welcoming to anybody right now, educated or not.
The biggest problem, I think, is that the goals of college have changed. People (and yes, I'm speaking generally, based on my own experience with people) aren't getting degrees because they want to; they're doing it because it's just what you do after high school and because they drill the idea in your head that you can't get a job without one. With that mindset, the government might as well just make college mandatory.
The biggest problem, I think, is that the goals of college have changed. People (and yes, I'm speaking generally, based on my own experience with people) aren't getting degrees because they want to; they're doing it because it's just what you do after high school and because they drill the idea in your head that you can't get a job without one. With that mindset, the government might as well just make college mandatory.
Yeah you're right. Sorry Dayton3, I just get a little riled up when teachers talk that way about students. You're making us look bad dude! Just try and be cool with all your students, even your bottom ten percent. Look at it this way, even if they still fail, at least you'll be having more fun.
And quite frankly, it's a horrid idea. Not everyone belongs at college. Trade school or technical college should not be bad words.
It isn't just the students, it's the teachers too; at least in my experience on a community college level. One of the reasons I didn't push to continue on a degree course and finally just opted out for individual certifications was because the teachers weren't teaching they were basically behaving like bored highschool teachers. Just having attendance was enough for some of them, and they were more interested in testing out as many students as they could than spending time on the course material.
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I agree entirely.
And one doesn't even have to go to college for four years to get a Bachelor's degree.
Two of sisters and I received our degrees in only three years.
Mine in Marketing. One sister in Accounting. The other in Education.
I read in The American Enterprise magazine from about ten years back that there was no reason a law degree should require the years of study it currently does.
It said that a course of study lasting only three years plus a supplementary course of study in forensics was more than enough for the needs of most lawyers.
And of course you don't have a link for that, so we should give it the same weight as any other piece of undocumented internet puffery.
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Really?
They are worthless. I have a history degree with a minor in writing and I'm working as a customer support rep. Yeah, that works out well.
What they don't tell you in school is this: degrees help but what helps more is the people you know. Especially in my field. I probably didn't have to graduate college and still be where I am and actually further along than I am now.
Partly but like any body of people most people with a degree are mediocre people and mediocre workers and there are only so many "good" jobs and the best and the brightest will take them and the rest of the people with degrees will be doing dead-end jobs with everyone else.
Yeah knowing people helps but it's the smart and greedy who *get* to know people.
At least for consulting the difference between a post-graduate degree and a bachelor's degree is huge.
Phd or masters in math or engineering + good bullshitting skills + knows how to throw a good party = ending up in Mckinsey with future partnership in sight. A couple of my friends are riding on that career train.
I can maybe see that. I was on that path at college, myself, and it was supposed to be four years of Pre-Law, and 3 years of Law, but I was on course to finish the whole shebang, with excellent scores, in just four years, before money problems and other problems related to my psychotic mother forced me to leave school.
But then, I am a g*dd*mn genius!
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