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Why Do People Prefer the Earlier Seasons?
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I sympathize completely because I feel exactly the same way about Enterprise. Season 1 was the best, each subsequent season was a drop in quality, with the characters shoved to the background for fanwank by season 4.
With Voyager, I don't feel quite the same way. I watched season 1 and half of season 2, then a few eps a year during its initial run. After watching the fan collectives, I really got into the Seven Years--4-7.
After recently watching all seven seasons in order, I'll make these observations. Chakotay and Harry were never all that well developed--they were never going much of anywhere, so dropping them into the background didn't bug me. I like a long-term relationship on a series, so the seasons 4-7 Tom/B'Elanna bit pleased me. Tuvok and Neelix seemed to evolve through all 7 years. I liked Doc a lot better before he got his mobile emitter--he was just insufferable by season 7, but I think that's because Picardo was so good that they wrote for him. I was o.k. with Janeway hardening--losing Mark, the isolation of the Delta Quadrent--it made sense to me that she wouldn't be the same woman she was when the show started. I kind of liked her evolution. I loved Seven of Nine, and Jeri Ryan did a hell of a job with the role.
All that said, seasons 1 to 3 were tons better than I remembered, and I enjoyed watching them A LOT! One of the best relationships on the show was Janeway/B'Ellana, and I was truly sorry to see Seven take Torrres' place in that way. But I'm glad that I bought the complete series on dvd--I'm sure that I'll be watching the complete journey of Voyager every couple of years as time goes by.
I agree the potential for a great Janeway & Torres friendship got pushed aside which is a shame. It would have been great to see the two work together on an away mission.
That's pretty interesting since one of the goals of the later seasons was to not have any story arcs. Personally I think the series suffered from the lack of continuity and character consistency in the later seasons.
True but I think eps like "Dark Frontier" or like "Shattered" catch new veiwers up nicely. "Dark Frontier" recaps Seven's history and then some, while "Shattered" catches the viewer up on many of the key points through out the series.
The show is tragically simple. There's usually a hero, a villain and an obstacle to over come. It's the classic form. The episodic nature is by design facilitating the easy integration of the casual passer by who they dare not confuse for fear they'll get frustrated and change the channel.
There's barely an episode in the last three seasons you can't describe as kirks grandchildren lost in the ass end of space, and the booby blonde used to be an evil robot.
There's barely an episode in the last three seasons you can't describe as kirks grandchildren lost in the ass end of space, and the booby blonde used to be an evil robot.
I don't prefer the earlier seasons at all. In fact, I prefer seasons 4-7. They are much better then 1-3.
I got tired of way too many seven stories and way too many doctor stories. i can understand having those characters to provide outside commentary on humanity, but there were plenty of other crewmen to do stories on. Other than that I really didn't mind having them on the show, just that the show focused way too much on them.
Because Kes is marvelous and Seven is nothing but a tit show.
I find how her hair doesn't move more impressive than her tits.
A selfconsciousness female trekkie pal of mine spent half an hour yelling at the screen over this once while the ship was exploding all around Seven. 24th century hair products must be awesome.
Personally I think Sevens posture is very attractive.
A selfconsciousness female trekkie pal of mine spent half an hour yelling at the screen over this once while the ship was exploding all around Seven. 24th century hair products must be awesome.
Personally I think Sevens posture is very attractive.
Thank you!
I've rewatched Season Five and many episodes still involve or revolve around characters that are not Seven of Nine, and while she is very iconic and a major character, I think the 'Seven of Nine Show' moniker is overexaggerated.
Also Robert Beltran had his finest hour in "Timeless", supposedly when Seven took over the show.
Also Robert Beltran had his finest hour in "Timeless", supposedly when Seven took over the show.
That would be the episode where she got drunk and horny and flustered and then it was only excavating into her dead skull which gave them their ticket home... As a Borgsicle she had more personality than Chakotay, but that Episode was all about Kim. Even the best thingy about Chuckles was that he was getting some, came down to a Kim line blurting out about the relationship between the Indian and the hottie. Chakotay was just along for the ride.
I am one of those that prefer the first seasons although obviously it had its share of bad episodes as well and the later seasons also had some good ones.
The reasons why I prefer these:
I like the character of Kes better then Seven of Nine and at least there was not too much focus on her.
Too much focus on seven of nine
More of an ensemble show those first seasons
The premise behind the show of these people being out there in the unknown came out much better in the first seasons
The borg are cool but are not good regular vilains on a show; it makes them lose their edge.
The reasons why I prefer these:
I like the character of Kes better then Seven of Nine and at least there was not too much focus on her.
Too much focus on seven of nine
More of an ensemble show those first seasons
The premise behind the show of these people being out there in the unknown came out much better in the first seasons
The borg are cool but are not good regular vilains on a show; it makes them lose their edge.
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