Why can't Nimoy do the "Space..." thing correctly?

[Yeoman Randi]

^ sorry if that post has a snotty sound to it. thats not how it was meant at all....

No biggie. I know.

What I meant was I just can't imagine an appropriate context for working it into another Trek movie. At the beginning? At the end, again? Using it to end ST09 was perfect (better than its use in TWOK). And, it was Pine's shot, but they decided to go in a more sentimental direction. (Of course, Shatner never got to say the entire thing on the big screen, either. Only a snippet from it at the end of TUC.)

Cool

Yes, i see what you mean about it very possibly not being used again. I really had to sit and think about it...and you are right, it wasnt used in every movie, so we shouldnt expect to hear it again.

 

[Shieldsdown]

I've started an online petition to have Urban do it in his Kiwi accent.


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[CommanderRaytas]

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Although I'd rather have him say it in Eomer mode.

"And elf, a dwarf, a Ranger, and SPACE!"

 

[barnaclelapse]

I still say Pine should've done it at the end of Star Trek XI

Yes. By the end of the movie, Pine had earned the right to deliver that monologue as Jim Kirk.

Nimoy doing it wasn't too out of place, though. But I think it was done mostly as the sentimental choice. One final valentine to old fans.
To that end, it was nice, but using Pine (Kirk) would've been more forward-looking and a true passing of the baton. Sadly, Pine's Kirk will probably never get to deliver those lines.

I see no reason why he can't do it in the next movie.

 

[Crusher Disciple]

I've started an online petition to have Urban do it in his Kiwi accent.


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Dang!....... Now I have black ink on my computer screen!!

I've started an online petition to have Urban do it in his Kiwi accent.


Please sign here:


X_________________

Signed!

Although I'd rather have him say it in Eomer mode.

"And elf, a dwarf, a Ranger, and SPACE!"

That's three! *heads over to the Karl Urban thread to clean up*

 

[Elder Knight]

what about "no one" vs. "no man"? aren't we going to complain about nimoy being gender inclusive?

Interesting. I think that Spock was the only one of the captains to use "her" instead of "its" in reference to the ship, even back in Wrath of Khan.

Odd that the man without emotions would go for poetry over the more accurate description.

 

[PhasersOnStun]

Of course, Shatner never got to say the entire thing on the big screen, either. Only a snippet from it at the end of TUC.

You never know...maybe they'll bring Shatner into Star Trek XII, and then he'll get to say the entire thing at the end of it!

 

[Bad Atom]

When I read the thread title I thought this would be about Nimoy's dentures making his voice sound different...

 

[Oryx]

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...Oh, right, signed.

 

[Maurice]

^ sorry if that post has a snotty sound to it. thats not how it was meant at all....

You know, you can edit posts for a time after you make them.

 

[iguana_tonante]

When I read the thread title I thought this would be about Nimoy's dentures making his voice sound different...

I thought the same thing.

 

[KingstonTrekker]

When I read the thread title I thought this would be about Nimoy's dentures making his voice sound different...

I thought the same thing.

Thank goodness for Sea-Bond!!!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I've started an online petition to have Urban do it in his Kiwi accent.

nah, he should do it in his McCoy voice:

"Space, the final frontier...is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence...to seek out new life and possibly throw up on it...to boldly go where I have no choice but to go, because my ex wife took everything in the damn divorce."

 

[T'Cal]

I was going to point out that Nimoy didn't write it, he just read it, but then I figured out you were kidding.

I'm not kidding, but I'm not being super-serious about this either. I just don't get why the writers would change this deeply traditional line. Even many non-Trekkers can quote it and most at minimum recognize it right away.

As for the gender issue, since the speaker of the quote is Spock Prime from the late 24th century, I would expect it to be gender neutral as it was in TNG. In fact, I wish it had been the exact quote from TNG (...its continuing mission...to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldy go where no one has gone before.) I have no problem with Nimoy reading it at the end of STXI but I can understand the desire that some have for Pine to have done it.

 

[Neumann]

The next movie will have many small references to Star Wars.

It better don't or I'll piss all over that shit. I mean it, I'd rather kill star trek than to hand it into that nonsensical bs which is called "star wars"

 

[JarodRussell]

I was actually more annoyed by the music in that scene. Giacchino tried to update that timeless TOS fanfare to make it more cool, and he failed miserably.

I'm not kidding, but I'm not being super-serious about this either. I just don't get why the writers would change this deeply traditional line. Even many non-Trekkers can quote it and most at minimum recognize it right away.

Same reason why they changed the color of the bussards from red to blue (no, I'm not a subscriber to Nacelle's Monthly, it's just an example). There is absolutely NO REASON to do that, yet they did it anyway. The quality of the movie doesn't change with that, it surely has no effect on the box office, it has no artistic relevance, yet it annoys fans who care about stuff like that. And the TOS Enterprise that got so famous, that is on display at the Smithsonian for everyone to see, simply has RED/ORANGE nacelles. Even many non Trekkers know that.

 

[Devon]

I was actually more annoyed by the music in that scene. Giacchino tried to update that timeless TOS fanfare to make it more cool, and he failed miserably.

Really? That's odd since he did it fine.

 

[JarodRussell]

Really? That's odd since he did it fine.

I totally dislike it. The beginning is fine, but once the fanfare starts (or rather his reinterpretation), it gets ugly in my ears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRQ0Px7SsOI

 

[M'Sharak]

Really? That's odd since he did it fine.

I totally dislike it. The beginning is fine, but once the fanfare starts (or rather his reinterpretation), it gets ugly in my ears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRQ0Px7SsOI

To be fair, that's more than just an updating or a reinterpretation; it's a simultaneous statement of the TOS fanfare figure and the melodic theme which runs thoughout much of the music heard in the movie. You might dislike it for not being exactly the same as the TOS fanfare you heard every episode in the TV series, or you may dislike that the new movie's theme is there at all -- those are a matter of opinion, and you are of course entitled to yours -- but it's a perfectly legitimate compositional choice for Giacchino to have made at that point.

It's also getting away from the question raised by the OP, just a little.

 

[EnsignRicky]

The first thing I thought when I read the thread head was: Dentures?

And I'm sorry for that.