I think what he's saying is that he thinks the "Space: the final frontier... " monologue may not be used in future films in any form. That Nimoy was the one to deliver the lines at the end of this movie hints at the words being still tied in a way to the prime universe / timeline -- Old Trek, in other words -- while any new stories on the big screen will be told in this alternate, New Trek universe / timeline. Leaving the words behind might be a choice by the filmmakers to underscore the idea that this is a different course we're traveling now, in a different Trek universe.
Please explain. All the main actors are signed on to be back for any sequel. Or are you saying this just because you think he's not worthy?
No biggie. I know.
What I meant was I just can't imagine an appropriate context for working it into another Trek movie. At the beginning? At the end, again? Using it to end ST09 was perfect (better than its use in TWOK). And, it was Pine's shot, but they decided to go in a more sentimental direction. (Of course, Shatner never got to say the entire thing on the big screen, either. Only a snippet from it at the end of TUC.)
I think what he's saying is that he thinks the "Space: the final frontier... " monologue may not be used in future films in any form. That Nimoy was the one to deliver the lines at the end of this movie hints at the words being still tied in a way to the prime universe / timeline -- Old Trek, in other words -- while any new stories on the big screen will be told in this alternate, New Trek universe / timeline. Leaving the words behind might be a choice by the filmmakers to underscore the idea that this is a different course we're traveling now, in a different Trek universe.
Please explain. All the main actors are signed on to be back for any sequel. Or are you saying this just because you think he's not worthy?
Already done, months ago, but the number of people objecting to it was fairly small, iirc.
Okay, I see what you were getting at.I think what he's saying is that he thinks the "Space: the final frontier... " monologue may not be used in future films in any form. That Nimoy was the one to deliver the lines at the end of this movie hints at the words being still tied in a way to the prime universe / timeline -- Old Trek, in other words -- while any new stories on the big screen will be told in this alternate, New Trek universe / timeline. Leaving the words behind might be a choice by the filmmakers to underscore the idea that this is a different course we're traveling now, in a different Trek universe.Please explain. All the main actors are signed on to be back for any sequel. Or are you saying this just because you think he's not worthy?
That thought crossed my mind, too, but I dismissed it. But if that was their thinking in giving Nimoy the lines, I'd have to say I don't agree with the reasoning. Those words are supposed to be what Trek is about, in any universe.
And, in the context of the beauty shots of the Enterprise as Nimoy says those words at the end of the movie, it's almost as if he's introducing us to the new crew and telling us their mission.
I don't recall having seen that specific question addressed by the filmmakers, but I do remember a quote from some time before the movie opened (can't recall exactly when, or whether it was Abrams, Orci or whomever) to the effect of "Everything which happens in the movie -- everything you see or hear -- is there for a reason." There may not be an "official" reason on record where any one of us can see it, but I have no doubt that they had several different ideas about how to do the monologue or whether to use it at all, and that there was a reason they settled on the one we saw/heard.
