Why are Star Trek fans made fun of more than Star Wars fans in popular culture?
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sorry, I'll head over thereThat sounds like a great question to discuss....in the Sci-Fi/Fantasy Forum....
...Well, now we know what would have happened had Annie Wilkes been a Trekkie.
In all seriousness, though, what the hell?
Given how some people harass even us fan fic writers to hurry up and publish a new story or finish one already... I would indeed sometimes like to send them some of Annie Wilkes' lines with the words "this is what you sound like right now".
We bring it on ourselves. It's because Trekkies tend to take the franchise far more seriously than "Star Wars" fans do. Sure, they get angry about storyline continuity and new movies they just don't like; but I haven't heard many people fretting over the Millennium Falcon never running out of firepower, or trying to math out the exact number of parsecs it should take to get from Tattoine to Alderaan. And I'm certain that if a "Star Wars" movie called "Saber Trial of Destiny" came out, "Star Wars" fans would be the first to embrace "STD" as its funny abbreviation.
This is partly due to Star Trek itself tho. The franchise takes itself (way too) seriously, so, naturally, a lot of its fans do the same.
That's not universally so. Nimoy's two films contained increasing injections of humor, distributed in many cast directions. Over time, these ''follow-the-bouncing-ball'' moments would in certain cases become the highlight of the entire sequel.
Would the same rules apply to Star Wars fans?
To almost everything in life, at least in my view. Balance and moderation.
Basically Yin & Yang, the concept of maintaining Balance in all things.
One way.
I prefer Stoicism or Pauline discipline as a descriptor but yours is close enough to suffice.
I don’t think this is universally true. SNW bugs me because of the wacky, zany MCU tone and constant quippy dialogue. I like my Trek serious with a seasoning of humour and not as some kind of comedy.
I'm kind of surprised Security didn't take the phaser away from her. Even toy weapons are usually not permitted.
The MCU tone has spread to more than Trek, but just as many media franchises outside of the MCU & Marvel/Comics franchise.
There is a fine but crucial line between taking this stuff seriously and taking it too seriously.
Where that line falls is admittedly a judgment call.
I don't know. Maybe this is a generational thing, but I don't think of fun, quippy banter as some pernicious new trend for which Marvel is to blame. Honestly, that describes a lot of the shows and movies I grew up on back in the day: The Avengers (Steed and Peel, not Steve and Tony), The Man from UNCLE, Wild West West, not to mention the early Bond films and their many imitators: Our Man Flint, Matt Helm, etc.
Even Star Trek (by which I mean TOS) had its fair share of quippy banter and bizarre, sometimes comic situations. Tribbles, "Alice in Wonderland," Harry Mudd, Apollo's glowing green hand, etc.
And then in the nineties, we had fun, irreverent, ironic dialogue in everything from Xena to Buffy to Farscape and even The X-Files. Long before the Marvel movies struck gold.
All of which is a roundabout way of saying that this sort of tone is nothing new for genre shows -- and often adds a bit of zest to the proceedings, depending on what kind of story you're telling that week.
(Heck, even one of the most famously tragic Trek episodes, "City on the Edge of Forever," features some more light-hearted dialogue as well: the rice-picker bit, stone knives and bearskins, etc.)
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Don't forget Firefly... great show, also filled with fun, quippy (and quotable!) dialogue. Also from before the Marvel movies came on the scene.
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