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Who Is Moffat Making The Series For?

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You don't think the scenes were important to the episode? They established the initial plot, the character's motivation, the bad guys and their powers. It's not possible to tell for certain if it's important to the plot, but it seems like it's setting things up to me that will be explained in the second half.

Given that we all know the Doctor's "death" will be undone, that's nearly half the episode taken up with pointless scenes whose main function seems to have been to generate the utterly pointless "One of these characters will die!" hype.
 
I don't think the doctor was killed to create the hype, but the fact that he was was certainly exploited by the BBC. It's like Time's Children killing Kira. It was important for Odo's character, but all the commercials talked about how someone was going to die.

The point is to set up this dilemma where Amy wants to tell the Doctor and stop it, but has to act on her own. In other words, the Doctor isn't fully in control here.
 
Re: Complaining about "Americanization"

In last night's episode petrol was referred to as gasoline, and in a Tennant episode, possibly Human Nature, a date is given in the American format.

The date thing if i remember, was "The Doctors Daughter" and the use of the american date system was a plot piece so the mains (and the audience) didnt immediately realise that it was a modern date system.
 
To those who feel they are "Americanizing" Who so much, how much of that do yo feel is the episode itself.... and how much was the advertising, the advance hype?
 
To those who feel they are "Americanizing" Who so much, how much of that do yo feel is the episode itself.... and how much was the advertising, the advance hype?

Well personally I don't feel that it's Americanised, just pandering to the American market for these two episodes, something which I have happily tried to explain in a previous post. For me personally, I think that the marketing blitz that was carried out and the fact they were starting the series in America and made such a big deal about it made the episode feel off.
 
To those who feel they are "Americanizing" Who so much, how much of that do yo feel is the episode itself.... and how much was the advertising, the advance hype?

Well personally I don't feel that it's Americanised, just pandering to the American market for these two episodes, something which I have happily tried to explain in a previous post. For me personally, I think that the marketing blitz that was carried out and the fact they were starting the series in America and made such a big deal about it made the episode feel off.

I find that perfectly understandable. To be honest, as an American fan I am flattered to see an apparent push to the American market. BUT... as a DW fan, I am cautious. One of the things I have enjoyed bout the show is its Brit-centric creation and story. It gives me insight into British culture and provides a fun way to make new friends. Because of that, I can understand concerns about too much American influence in the settings, stories, and so on... we don't want it to lose that fish-n-chips flavor.

However... I really never felt it was off. Of course, that's easy for me to say being an American. How much do we know about the rest of the 6th series and the settings therein? Are anymore going to be set in America?
 
To those who feel they are "Americanizing" Who so much, how much of that do yo feel is the episode itself.... and how much was the advertising, the advance hype?

Well personally I don't feel that it's Americanised, just pandering to the American market for these two episodes, something which I have happily tried to explain in a previous post. For me personally, I think that the marketing blitz that was carried out and the fact they were starting the series in America and made such a big deal about it made the episode feel off.

I find that perfectly understandable. To be honest, as an American fan I am flattered to see an apparent push to the American market. BUT... as a DW fan, I am cautious. One of the things I have enjoyed bout the show is its Brit-centric creation and story. It gives me insight into British culture and provides a fun way to make new friends. Because of that, I can understand concerns about too much American influence in the settings, stories, and so on... we don't want it to lose that fish-n-chips flavor.

However... I really never felt it was off. Of course, that's easy for me to say being an American. How much do we know about the rest of the 6th series and the settings therein? Are anymore going to be set in America?

I don't think there's going to be anymore stories set in America this season, unless they come back to what happened in Utah. But I've said for a while now that the show had become Americanized, but then most British shows are nowadays so it's not a big deal. The Sarah Jane Adventures is one of the few recent shows I've seen that still retain some of the style and structure of the older shows.
 
I have a cousin who has Down's Syndrome. She is the hugest Doctor Who fan - has every single episode ever made on video/dvd. And just about every piece of merchandise ever made. (I gave her a Doctor Who Easter Egg this weekend).

But when asked yesterday about watching, she declined. Said she didn't want to see it because it was "too scary". This from a girl who has watched everything Who has ever done. And that makes me sad.

Well, for what it's worth, I didn't find it very scary at all. If she managed to cope with The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances which I found extremely scary and creepy then she'll be fine watching last night's episode. I hope you told her that. It would be a shame if she stopped watching due to misconceptions and misinformation.
 
Re: Complaining about "Americanization"

Anyone who was truly complaining about americanisation would spell it with an "s" ;)
 
Gibson, I'm not buying into your logic. No rising tension just doesn't seem accurate. The first act contains the death of the Doctor, and is followed by developments such as a creepy kid caller, the realization that the heroes are being followed a new bad guy that cannot be remembered and then the craziness when they stumble onto the Silents' TARDIS. Finally, Amy shoots a little girl.

There's a thing called pacing which dictates the energy and speed of a story, and SM is using his own pacing. Just as the tempo of a symphony may vary from that of others, does not mean that the work is simply flat. Your desire for the traditional five-act suspense at the commercial break sounds like you only want more of the same with every story. I'll reply again that this is a two-parter. The first part does not have a payoff. If it did, there wouldn't need to be a second part.
 
Re: Complaining about "Americanization"

@Sci I was actually including TIA in the three total stories set in America. And d'oh! I work very hard to always distinguish correctly between "English" and "British," I really do. I'm sorry that one slipped by me.

@Mitty Indeed, you do me the honour of pointing out my mistakes. As I have in the past worked as a copy writer for a company based in Canada and Australia, and currently write for the Traveller RPG published in London, I do endeavour to write correctly when addressing non-Americans. My slippage must indicate some sort of brain injury, possibly sustained whilst I was a foetus. Perhaps I require hospitalisation? :D
 
Re: Complaining about "Americanization"

The topic of "Americaniz/sing of Doctor Who" doesn't really require a separate thread, given that it's already being covered well in this current thread.
 
RE-EDIT: Seriously, this current thread was created about the broad audience. Mine was regarding Americanisation. I feel that there's a difference. Besides that, I can't find any of the content of the thread that I started, and that had some intelligently-written comments by all the responders.
 
Yeah, I have to agree with JRoss; these threads really felt like separate topics. One was on SciFi vs Non-SciFi and the other was on Americanization (or, rather, how the reaction is overblown).
 
Well personally I don't feel that it's Americanised, just pandering to the American market for these two episodes, something which I have happily tried to explain in a previous post.

Your logic was fairly precarious. It seemed to boil down to, "They're repeating the 'Doctor who?' gag because Americans are too stupid not to need the joke in the script."
 
Well personally I don't feel that it's Americanised, just pandering to the American market for these two episodes, something which I have happily tried to explain in a previous post.

Your logic was fairly precarious. It seemed to boil down to, "They're repeating the 'Doctor who?' gag because Americans are too stupid not to need the joke in the script."

And of course if that's all I wrote on the subject at hand, you may have a point. I did in fact write a lot more, I explained why in my opinion I felt that I did. Go back, reread what I wrote and then reply and I'll do more than just laugh at your response.
 
Re: Complaining about "Americanization"

Anyone who was truly complaining about americanisation would spell it with an "s" ;)

I was just about to post that. Didn't think about it earlier, but, yeah, should be Americanisation if you brits are upset about it. While, I should apparently be thrilled by this Americanization.
 
Re: Complaining about "Americanization"

@Sci I was actually including TIA in the three total stories set in America. And d'oh! I work very hard to always distinguish correctly between "English" and "British," I really do. I'm sorry that one slipped by me.

Talking as a native of the British Isles, I personally have no problem what so ever with English and British being used instead of one another. So don't worry about it.
 
Thanks, Dimesdan, but as an American writing for British audiences, I do have to keep myself in check at all times, lest I be flamed! Mind if I ask which "flavor" Brit you happen to be?
 
Thanks, Dimesdan, but as an American writing for British audiences, I do have to keep myself in check at all times, lest I be flamed! Mind if I ask which "flavor" Brit you happen to be?

Only it seems by fellow Americans. I'm sure if you interchange England with Scotland or Wales you'd be in for a bit of trouble. But when it comes to interchanging England and Britain, as I already said, being a native of this fair isles, I really wouldn't sweat it.

Oh and I'm very much English, so my view point has more weight than the person who complained in the first place.
 
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