Actually, the Enterprise-D's engine room set was the heavily updated/modified version of the TMP Enterprise's engine room set. They simply didn't have time/money to convert it back, esp. with TNG still in production at the time.
Which ships would you include in Starfleet during TOS?
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Actually, the Enterprise-D's engine room set was the heavily updated/modified version of the TMP Enterprise's engine room set. They simply didn't have time/money to convert it back, esp. with TNG still in production at the time.
TrekBBS member Prologic9 did (IMHO) a great take on this concept over in the fan art forum.
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=166732
But does the Enterprise in that epsiode have the "original" engines that the Enterprise possessed when it was first commissioned?
Was it re-engined at some point previously? Those being the engines Marvick had a hand in designing.
Thanks for the link, Avro. Yes, Prologic9 certainly did a great job on that design.
But does the Enterprise in that epsiode have the "original" engines that the Enterprise possessed when it was first commissioned?
Was it re-engined at some point previously? Those being the engines Marvick had a hand in designing.
The engines had some noticeably different details on the pilot versions of the ship, so it's likely that the Season 3 engines were from a refit that was done sometime after "Where No Man Has Gone Before", and thus only a handful of years old.
David Frankham (Larry Marvick) was 42 years old in 1968 (2268), but I think was meant to be playing older (say, a youthful 52 - think Tom Cruise or David Duchovny). And a middle-aged man can suddenly act young if the right woman's put in front of him. So it's entirely possible that Marvick, if 28 years old (instead of 18) in 2244, could have played a role in the design of the original engines.
Given the colossal resources of a 23rd Century civilization of dozens of member worlds, who have large, powerful known enemies, it is difficult to argue for a Starfleet of less than 50,000 to 100,000. Even that would be a fairly small fleet for such a gigantic civilization.
Normally, there is some limiting factor invoked to explain the Lilliputian micro-fleet that Starfleet appears to have. It could be anti-matter production limits or shortages of dilithium crystals, or some such. It certainly isn't a shortage of woman and man power.
In DS9, the mini-Starfleet appeared comparable to the WW2 US Navy. That was large for an Earth Navy of 1945, but microscopic for the immense Federation.
So either there is a mini-fleet resulting from some key shortage in physical resources or Starfleet is vastly larger, and much more in line with what would seem to be reasonable.
Yeah, the size Starfleet would have to have has always been seriously underestimated by the authors, who tend to focus on just a smattering of hero ships. The (relatively) large attack formations in DS9 are about as good as it gets in OldTrek canon.
