And in 1989 Trek's idea of the duration for travel across the galaxy was still in fuzzy territory.
Which is "YOUR" Star Trek?
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Totally. Consistency in speeds in TOS and the TOS movies were never a strong suit.
In TWOK, they are about 11 hours out from Regula One at Warp 5 when they are attacked and their warp drive is knocked out. On aux power, they get there in the very next scene. In TSFS, the Enterprise can reach the Mutara Sector in about 3 hours based on the dialogue, which makes no sense given what was established in the previous film. TUC is even worse...with the Excelsior headed home from Beta Quadrant "under full impulse power" (presumably Sulu was looking to get back home in 976 years) and the Enterprise being "1,000 light years from Federation Headquarters," but making the trip in what seemed like less than a day (based on Kirk still unpacking his bags in his quarters when Valeris tells him they are almost at the rendezvous).
I can forgive the "distance to the center of the galaxy" thing for these reasons. They're telling stories, not giving us scientific accuracy (for better or worse).
Even in 2001 fans were giving ENT heat for Qo'noS being "80 hours away" from Earth at the top warp speeds of 2151. Admittedly that sounded weird at first but it's Trek. Trying to make everything sound scientifically accurate is not only a Quixotic task but a waste of time. It's Star Trek, not Cosmos with Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Smart move. Honestly, as much as I enjoy technical manuals, the hand wringing over the fuzzy Trek logic is not worth the heartburn.
It's science fiction set in a universe where most aliens look humanoid and speak English. Treating Trek like a college lecture on gravity and physics is just setting the bar too high.
I feel like they could get away with ships being able to travel anywhere in days right until Voyager started and made their distance from home and travel time part of their premise. You don't have to a maths professor to figure out the top speed of these ships when you know it takes 75 years to travel over 70,000 light years.
I learned long ago not to be like one of those fans. It's a franchise where you turn people into energy patterns and reassemble them in one working piece.
Reality and Star Trek are at best casual friends.
Reality and Star Trek are at best casual friends.
Good roommates, who occasionally talk or share the same place. That's about it.
Answered in the other thread too- https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/when-did-you-first-become-a-fan-poll.309785/
QUOTE="Mondragon, post: 13969201, member: 79311"]
My first Trek was Original Series during 70s syndication rerun era, along with Filmation Star Trek: The Animated Series, .....
I liked the Motion Picture and Wrath of Khan well enough, and it took me a while to get into, but eventually became a fan of Next Gen, DS9 and Voyager.
QUOTE="Mondragon, post: 13969201, member: 79311"]
My first Trek was Original Series during 70s syndication rerun era, along with Filmation Star Trek: The Animated Series, .....
I liked the Motion Picture and Wrath of Khan well enough, and it took me a while to get into, but eventually became a fan of Next Gen, DS9 and Voyager.
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TNG & DS9. TNG is when I first started watching Trek on a weekly basis as a kid when it premiered, and that continued with DS9. Before those shows existed as a sci-fi fan in general, I would occasionally watch TOS reruns with my mom who had watched that series when it was new.
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But for those of us who actually know a little about physics, this sort of thing takes us right out of the story and just serves to highlight in big neon letters that this was made up by people who don't understand what they're talking about. Like claiming you can drive from San Francisco to LA in an hour, or that someone can swim across the Atlantic. Nobody's expecting a precise theoretical framework, but at least getting the scale on the order of the right magnitude right would be appreciated. It's not hard to look up things like "how big solar systems are" or "how far apart stars are", and it wasn't even in the 1980s.
I'm reminded of films like The Italian Job where they show people driving past famous landmarks in quick succession that in reality are nowhere near each other; or all those times Vancouver is very obviously standing in for virtually any US city. Don't get me started on Voyager's "Fair Haven" episodes, which are borderline offensive to anyone who's so much as visited Ireland, never mind lived there. You might say that this stuff doesn't matter because it's a fiction, but the point is that if it ruins the fiction for some people, then it matters
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My Star Trek was TNG, but I wish you could have given us multiple options because it was really the 90s Star Trek. It was when I was growing up and was extremely excited for new episodes. I stopped watching DS9 but I remember watching TNG, Voyager, and most of DS9 in first run. It was a great time, and I was going through my young to teenage years.
TOS.
TOS.
and more TOS.
I grew up in the 80s, but was already watching TOS (under the age of 10) and didn't start watching TNG until the last two episodes of Season 1 (not really sure how/why i missed the bulk of it.)
Star Trek Continues and other TOS fanfilms is what brought me back to the fandom. Stopped watching during Voyager, missed all of first-run ENT and despise the Kelvin movies.
TOS.
and more TOS.
I grew up in the 80s, but was already watching TOS (under the age of 10) and didn't start watching TNG until the last two episodes of Season 1 (not really sure how/why i missed the bulk of it.)
Star Trek Continues and other TOS fanfilms is what brought me back to the fandom. Stopped watching during Voyager, missed all of first-run ENT and despise the Kelvin movies.
all of them
Considering how they got together (Sybok mind drug) are you really surprised?
They were actually something of a thing in the movie before they even met Sybok. 
Uhura's brainwash just made things more open and awkward.
Uhura's brainwash just made things more open and awkward.
Imagine getting together with someone after working together for TWENTY YEARS.
Oh wait, Riker and Troi.
Oh wait, Riker and Troi.
Voyager. It is my first and greatest love.
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