Which is the stronger ship, Disco or Enterprise?

[CommanderRaytas]

There are four more movies coming. Maybe they still will

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!

 

[USS Triumphant]

My vote would be Enterprise, for the extremely meta reason that we see her later, but don't see Discovery, so Enterprise would have to survive any battle between them.

Depends on which show it is

The Needs of the Plot outweigh the "needs" of the fandom to have cool, detailed schematics of ships and their relative power levels.

Shields might not be as strong, but the twirling spacial rap dance makes it an extremely difficult target to hit.

Don't you mean Rapp dance?

 

[Brainsucker]

Think of them as platforms or just hulls which are then fitted out as necessary for the tasks required of them, some hulls are clearly slanted in a particular direction whereas others can be jack's of all trades.

The Enterprise is a deep space explorer platform and a ship of the line fitted with the best weapons and shields and I would expect an emphasis on reliability and warp engine power/speed, it should also have the most mounting points for both offensive and defensive systems, as an explorer it's sensors and probes should be also be top of the line, due to the extended periods away from any support the Enterprise has to have a well rounded set of systems.

The Discovery is primarily a science platform, it does have weapons and shields but it is not really meant to be used as a warship except in dire need as shown by the crew compliment being made up mostly of science personnel, it probably has fewer mounting points as well for weapons and shields but it's size allows for many large laboratories covering all kinds of experiments, the ship itself is also a testbed utilising newly developed systems to show proof of concept.

Its main advantage over the Klingons was the Spore drive, without that it wouldn't have fared any better than the rest of the non frontline ships.

The Enterprise should win, it it doesn't then it's either commanded poorly or its systems are not up to scratch.

Compare those above to the Reliant class platform which was a destroyer, that means it was designed purely to engage and destroy enemy ships of the line like the Klingon D7's, so it could on paper have had more mount points than the Enterprise hull at the expense of other systems it didn't need.

It's not just about phasers and torpedo launchers, targeting systems and impulse engines also make a big difference especially against opponents like the Klingons who favour mobility and speed in dogfights.

You're forgetting that Discovery was considered as a warship during previously Federation - Klingon War. And she was one of the most capable warship during that time. so even if Discovery was built as a science ship, she has been refitted with the best weapon for the sake of war.

 

[Timo]

Well, not. Her drive is a good weapon, but her phasers still didn't hurt anybody during the latter stages of the war - the fight to save the Gagarin was a dismal failure where our heroes scored exactly nothing. Presumably the guns were beyond help, or else Starfleet would have taken the time to do something about them.

Her torps worked fine against unshielded targets, which is a bit like saying that the new tank's main gun worked fine against cardboard targets. She never fired the torps successfully against a shielded and resisting target, either...

Were her shields any good? Hard to tell when nobody really fired at her in anger. Control went for the soft touch; the Klingons in the Gagarin fight didn't consider her a proper threat, and she fled before shields became an issue. The Mirror Universe guns never got a chance.

The best we can say is that her fire control was adequate, scoring 100% against those small Klingon raiders and apparently doing well against Control's drones, too. But that's standard Starfleet fare.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Yistaan]

Hate to say it, but with the sphere data now Discovery is the strongest ship.

Enterprise meekly followed Kirk's orders to self destruct to kill Kruge's crew.

Pike tried to pull this with Discovery and Discovery said, "Sorry, not going to happen."