Poll Which Enterprise do you think we'll see?

[Viper78]

Exclusive from the season finale script!

Picard et al. will be watching through La Serena's viewport as they approach one of the Starfleet tugs built for the Romulan Exodus. As the ship passes over the primary hull to reveal a second ship sitting behind it. It is a Galaxy Class starship! Picard's face lights up as the camera pans across the registry: USS ENTERPRISE, NCC-1701-D-A.

PICARD: My friends, we've come home.

Cue Leonard Rosenman Christmas-Carol-Like music. Roll end credits.

 

[ITDUDE]

Picard's face lights up as the camera pans across the registry: USS ENTERPRISE, NCC-1701-D-A.

The new registry will be NCC-1701-DD, bigger and better

 

[Gonzo]

Yep definitely an obsession forum.

 

[ITDUDE]

Yep definitely an obsession forum.

Statistically speaking, we’re mostly straight guys here

 

[Dukhat]

She was talking about back then, not now.

I went back and watched the scene, and you are correct; Clancy is referring to the aftermath of the evacuation. So we don’t have any reliable info about the status of Starfleet in 2399, other than that Utopia Planitia and Mars is still destroyed and not producing any ships.

 

[Lord Garth]

USS ENTERPRISE, NCC-1701-D-A.

I just had a thought. The La Sirena is an unregistered ship. I think the last thing Rios and everyone else wants to run into is a ship with the suffix "DA".

 

[ITDUDE]

I just had a thought. The La Sirena is an unregistered ship. I think the last thing Rios and everyone else wants to run into is a ship with the suffix "DA".

 

[Hythlodeus]

I see the thread has moved on for about 5 pages since I last visited it. Has the cake already appeared?

 

[Lord Garth]

I see the thread has moved on for about 5 pages since I last visited it. Has the cake already appeared?

You snooze, you lose.

It was a pretty damn good cake too.

 

[DaveyNY]

If she was lying about not having enough ships, Picard would have easily been able to find out the truth. But nothing of the sort happened, so I'm taking Clancy at her word. She was already going to deny Picard his request whether she had an available ship or not, so lying about how many ships Starfleet had would not have mattered.

Clancy pretty much tells Commodore Oh that she believes Picard is a doddering old fool.
She'd have absolutely no compunctions about lying to him just to get him out of her office.

 

[NCC-73515]

The Jellyfish was commissioned by the Vulcan Science Academy as per the 2009 film. The VSA has nothing to do with Starfleet.

which geordi worked for.
and no evidence of him not building the fleet, right?

The new registry will be NCC-1701-DD, bigger and better

NCCC-1700-72.

 

[Dukhat]

which geordi worked for.

Geordi worked for the Vulcan Science Academy? Source?

and no evidence of him not building the fleet, right?

Circular logic means nothing to me. By that logic, O’Brien could have built the fleet. Or Belanna Torres. Or my grandma.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Circular logic means nothing to me. By that logic, O’Brien could have built the fleet. Or Belanna Torres. Or my grandma.

Or Brian Brophy!

 

[NCC-73515]

Geordi worked for the Vulcan Science Academy? Source?



Circular logic means nothing to me. By that logic, O’Brien could have built the fleet. Or Belanna Torres. Or my grandma.

Source that he didn't? That's what you claimed. An unknown is not a no.

 

[Dukhat]

Source that he didn't? That's what you claimed. An unknown is not a no.

Let me repeat myself: I don’t care about circular logic. The tie-in comics are not canon, and they serve as no evidence whatsoever. I can say that Quark built the fleet and you can’t prove otherwise either. So feel free to think Geordi built the fleet until the cows come home; it makes no difference to me. But there’s no canon evidence this was the case. And that’s all that I care about.

 

[NCC-73515]

You could explain where you see the connection between circular logic and your lack of any sources for your statement ("The Romulan evacuation fleet was not built by Geordi"). You only accept canon evidence, yet your own statement has none.

 

[DaveyNY]

It's obvious that the writer of both the show and the comic (the same person) intended for Geordi to be involved in some manner.
I see no reason why it can't be assumed till otherwise proven wrong.

Many of us are still assuming that the size of the Original Enterprise is set in stone due to non-canon sources, though obviously that is no longer the case.

 

[Dukhat]

You could explain where you see the connection between circular logic and your lack of any sources for your statement ("The Romulan evacuation fleet was not built by Geordi"). You only accept canon evidence, yet your own statement has none.

Now you’re just being deliberately obtuse. So I will say this one more time and then I am done replying to you anymore about this topic: there is no canon evidence Geordi built the fleet. Saying ‘there’s no canon evidence he didn’t’ is a nonsequitor that has no relevance to the discussion as far as proof is concerned. Again, feel free to think he did. But your circular logic argument means nothing to me. End. Of. Discussion.

Now, let's get back to the original topic at hand: Which Enterprise do you think we'll see? I'm teetering between not seeing any Enterprise at all, to the Enterprise-F (as a brand-new design and not the ship from STO). As a matter of fact, I don't see them making ships of any previous designs, other than perhaps updating the DSC Starfleet vessel CGI models to reflect a different time period. Which wouldn't be all that difficult, since many of those designs would fit into the latter part of the 24th century just fine. And of course, the Enterprise-D from Picard's dream. That would be one ship design I'd be happy to see return as an actual ship, perhaps as the Titan from Nemesis.

 

[Viper78]

Now you’re just being deliberately obtuse. So I will say this one more time and then I am done replying to you anymore about this topic: there is no canon evidence Geordi built the fleet. Saying ‘there’s no canon evidence he didn’t’ is a nonsequitor that has no relevance to the discussion as far as proof is concerned. Again, feel free to think he did. But your circular logic argument means nothing to me. End. Of. Discussion.

Now, let's get back to the original topic at hand: Which Enterprise do you think we'll see? I'm teetering between not seeing any Enterprise at all, to the Enterprise-F (as a brand-new design and not the ship from STO). As a matter of fact, I don't see them making ships of any previous designs, other than perhaps updating the DSC Starfleet vessel CGI models to reflect a different time period. Which wouldn't be all that difficult, since many of those designs would fit into the latter part of the 24th century just fine. And of course, the Enterprise-D from Picard's dream. That would be one ship design I'd be happy to see return as an actual ship, perhaps as the Titan from Nemesis.

Titan is also a good shout, I wonder if it is the Titan if it will be the Luna class? At the end of Nemesis I had always imagined the Titan to be a Galaxy class.

Okay my list has now grown to four possibilities.
1. Enterprise-E
2. Galaxy Class
3. Titan (Luna class)
4. Defiant (using it's cloaking device.)

 

[Dukhat]

Titan is also a good shout, I wonder if it is the Titan if it will be the Luna class?

I highly doubt it. They are not beholden to stick to a 15-year-old fan-created design made for the same continuity of novels that PIC has just actively invalidated.

At the end of Nemesis I had always imagined the Titan to be a Galaxy class.

I always had the impression that the Titan was a brand new ship of a new class that was even larger and more powerful than the Sovereign class, hence its name (‘Titan’ evokes big and powerful. They’re freakin’ Greek gods, for Pete’s sake.) Pocket Books, however, made the odd decision that the ship was named for a moon and wanted it to be small, which I don’t believe was the original intention behind the name. I of course have no proof of that other than my opinion.