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Where would you rank it with the other films?

I don't know. I like to think the movies in three groups.

Group 1 would be the movies That hit on most, if not all, cylinders for me and include:

TWOK
TSFS
TVH

Group 2 include movies that miss on some levels for me, but still have good Star Trek moments:

TMP
TUC
FC
TFF
GEN

Group 3 are just, IMO, bad Trek movies all around. No merit:

INS
NEM

And I have to say "Star Trek 09" is a Group 1 movie all the way!
Interestingly, I agree with this clustering almost entirely. I'd bump ST6 up into group one and ST5 down into group three, but otherwise my sensibilities seem to match yours.

Except that I'd have to call nuTrek a group three movie, hands down. Full of moments that were just eye-rollingly bad.
 
This may change once I've seen it a few more times, but as of this moment here are my rankings:

1. Star Trek
2. The Wrath of Khan
3. The Undiscovered Country
4. First Contact
5. The Voyage Home
6. The Search for Spock
7. Generations
8. Nemesis
9. Insurrection
10. The Motion Picture
11. The Final Frontier
 
I use TMP as a sleep aide. Whenever I have trouble falling asleep, I put in the Director's Cut and bam!, I'm asleep within the first 20 minutes.

Also, the music is beautiful.
 
Haven't seen it yet, but I'm going to approach it with an open mind. I'm fairly certain that no new Trek movie could ever bump off any of my (at least)top 4, which are TWOK, TSFS, TVH and TMP. This is simply because I've known and loved those films my entire life. I'll probably end up ranking it above all of TNG movies, however, lol. But really, that's not saying much, is it? Seriously, though, my interest in piqued, and I'm looking forward to seeing it.
 
Sentiment aside...I am sure without the emotional bond to those older films, almost all the votes would go to ST 2009.

1. Star Trek
2. STII
3. STFC
4. STIV
5. STNEM
6. STVI
7. STTMP
8.STIII
9. STINS
10. STGEN
11. STV

RAMA
 
I would put this latest film in the top five.

I'm too lazy to come up with a ranked list, so you'll all just have to be satisfied with "in the top five."

Don't lose any sleep over that.

I'm serious. A good night's sleep is important.
 
Star Trek 09 is my new number one. First Contact was there before. I really like TWoK, but I never got the blind devotion most people have for that film.
 
ST II - The definitive Star Trek movie. Perfection for a sci-fi film.
ST XI - Excellent movie. Breathed new life into a dead franchise. JJ Abrams has saved Star Trek
ST VI - Very, Very good.
ST FC - By far the best of the TNG films
ST III
ST TMP
ST Gen
ST IV - Good for its day, no doubt, but at twenty-some odd years old, it's wayyyy too dated.
ST Ins - Could've been a tv episode.
ST Nemesis - tied for last. Awful.
ST V - Tied for last. Awful.
 
Pretty tough to say because it's very different than the other movies. For now I'll put it behind TWOK and FC. I really liked how those films were a little more than simple action/adventure stories. The new film is very exciting, and certainly left me smiling, but its plot and villain don't really stand up to those movies. In a lot of ways the movie felt more like a Star Wars film, which makes the comparison to the previous Trek films a little difficult. I like it, but for different reasons than I like TWOK and FC.
 
We'll need time before we can put the new movie in its proper perspective, but if I had to rank them now . . . .

1) The Wrath of Khan
2) The Voyage Home
3) First Contact
4) Star Trek (2009)
5) The Undiscovered Country
6) The Search for Spock
7) ST: The Motion Picture
8) Generations
9) Nemesis
10) Insurrection
11) The Final Frontier
 
Where do you rank Trek XI in your Top 11 of Trek Films?

For me:

1. Star Trek
2. Star Trek IV The Voyage Home
3. Star Trek II The Wrath Of Khan
4. Star Trek First Contact
5. Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country
6. Star Trek III The Search For Spock
7. Star Trek The Motion Picture
8. Star Trek Generations
9. Star Trek V The Final Frontier
10. Star Trek Nemesis
11. Star Trek Insurrection
 
Re: Where do you rank Trek XI in your Top 11 of Trek Films?

It seems to have risen to the top..

1. Star Trek
2. First Contact
3. Generations
4. The Undiscovered Country
5. TWOK
6. The Voyage Home
7. The Search for Spock
8. Nemesis
9. Insurrection
10. The Final Frontier
11. TMP

To be fair I have not watched TMP since I saw it in the theaters. I remember it as very very bad.. but I do intend to buy the dvd some day and watch it again. FC I've seen like 20 times but it appears to have been dethroned!
 
Re: Where do you rank Trek XI in your Top 11 of Trek Films?

Not the best made Trek movie, but the most fun for sure. Two different things to me.

But where the new movie places on an overall list? It might be too soon for me to say, really. I've got to watch it at least two more times, like every other Trek movie!
 
1. ST I TMP
2. ST II The Wrath of Khan
4. ST VIII First Contact
5. ST III The Search for Spock
6. ST VI The Undiscovered Country
7. ST IV The Voyage Home

The Rest don't matter and should be erased from history. In fact the next generation aside from their participation in wolf 359, the birthing of ds9 and first contact should be erased from canon. IMO.
 
We'll see how it fares during repeat watchings... but [don't hurt on the TWOK placing, it's only my humble opinion]

GREAT
1)The Undiscovered Country
2)The Voyage Home
3)Star Trek
4)First Contact
5)The Wrath of Khan

DECENT
6)Generations
7)The Search for Spock
8)Nemesis

AWFUL
9)Insurrection
10)The Motion Picture

NEED TO BE INTOXICATED TO MAKE IT THROUGH
11)The Final Frontier
 
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I'd hazzard to group em' this way:

1) Grew up with these movies
The Wrath of Khan
The Search for Spock
The Voyage Home
2) And these too
The Undiscovered Country
The Motion Picture
3) Good story, but ruined the borg afterwards (thanks voyager!)
First Contact
4) Good stories wasted
The Final Frontier
Insurrection
5) ...uhhm...
Generations
Nemesis
6) If I wanna ROFL for 2 hours
Star Trek
 
This list always changes for me not just near a release, but about every year or so. Still, at the moment:

TWOK - Not only the most genuinely emotional of all the films, but one of the tightest scripts, thematically speaking.
Trek XI - Resurrected the dead, knocked the stodginess out of Trek, and remolded the world for the 21st century.
TUC - Just a grand adventure, and a great send off for the original crew. sort of tied up the "Cold War" allegory.
TMP - As long as I fast-forward through th eV'Ger cloud approach. It's more grand than boring, and it's a real SF plot.
TSFS - A decent follow up to Khan, with some budgetary and dialogue issues.
FC - The only time the TNG crew told a story, instead of sold a product. "And he piled upon the whale's white hump..."
TVH - Dated, sometimes corny, but still very funny. The cast were so comfortable in their roles here.
GEN - Unevenly paced and at times too navel gazing, hurt by the obvious absence of Spock and McCoy at the start.
NEM - Like watching a prize fighter walk out into the ring and do the same stupid crap, even though you told him not to. Slavishly copies the preceding films, like it was written by an intelligent but inexperienced thirteen year old.
INS - It actually makes me sad that this was the last thing Michael Piller wrote for Trek. A glorified TV episode.
TFF - Heavy handed, cheaply-made, and continuity hell. Although I do love the camping scene.
 
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For me:

1. Star Trek (2009)
2. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Director's Cut)
4. Star Trek: First Contact
5. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
6. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
7. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
8. Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
9. Star Trek: Generations
10. Star Trek: Insurrection
11. Star Trek: Nemesis


J.
 
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