I think you're idea can work, but tbh I'm not really as into the wild west aspect as much. Even though I think TOS is far better than DSC or Picard, I still the latter 2 are more expensive because of the serialized storytelling. I love Kirk, Spock and McCoy as the best ST trio but I also like seeing everyone else get fleshed out. And DS9 with its stationary storyline gives a different wild west feel tos or tng couldn't. There's just more variety already built in
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I think you're idea can work, but tbh I'm not really as into the wild west aspect as much. Even though I think TOS is far better than DSC or Picard, I still the latter 2 are more expensive because of the serialized storytelling. I love Kirk, Spock and McCoy as the best ST trio but I also like seeing everyone else get fleshed out. And DS9 with its stationary storyline gives a different wild west feel tos or tng couldn't. There's just more variety already built in
Same with Yorktown base.
If we must draw comparisons it would be closer to Babylon 5 than DS9. You could explore aliens to your hearts content without repeating TNG storylines. I don't want Kirk, Spock or McCoy in this show. I literally want "the next generation" of officers being trained by those who are now senior level, admirals and the like. Doing something with a new crew to offer a new hook, rather than just "Oh, more TOS! Oh, more TNG!" Trying a little bit of a mix of flavors. A little bit jazz, a little bit rock and roll.
I understand. Idk what Kelvin will do anymore. Personally I'm just more keen on spinning off from Picard for the next ST series
I have little doubt you will get what you want long before I get what I want.
I hope so. I'm skeptical of Starfleet Academy atm
Well since disco start in this new era.. Nothing has really been "new" just prequels Sequal retreads ..
Tng hardly ever looked back on tos or cameos or old stories they made new stuff. Went there iwn direction.
I'm quite tired of the memberries ... Go do something NEW
Tng hardly ever looked back on tos or cameos or old stories they made new stuff. Went there iwn direction.
I'm quite tired of the memberries ... Go do something NEW
When people are willing to buy it.
There hasn't been demonstration of that willingness.
Which is in the future, and not related to Kelvin universe at all. Which is what I really want.
Then Section 31.
Then Academy.
Finally Legacy.
Have to be put on the shelf for sale to buy it.. So far no one's selling New..
They did briefly.
It was derided.
Now safe and familiar are blowing up the charts.
I'm still of the opinion that a continuation of the Berman era would be incredibly boring. At this point, its had 29 seasons of television and 4 films. Isn't that enough?
The 24th and now early 25th centuries have been so played out, in my opinion. The galaxy feels small. It feels as tho there is no great sense of adventure.
Yes, everyone hates on prequels these days, but I'll play my broken record once more and harp on about the early days of the Federation.
We could have a series where space feels dangerous again. Where you never know what could lay beyond those distant stars.
Enterprise tried to do it, but got bogged down with franchise fatigue, questionable writing and network interference. Doesn't mean we can't try again!
The 22nd century is still filled with possibilities for amazing storytelling!
The 24th and now early 25th centuries have been so played out, in my opinion. The galaxy feels small. It feels as tho there is no great sense of adventure.
Yes, everyone hates on prequels these days, but I'll play my broken record once more and harp on about the early days of the Federation.
We could have a series where space feels dangerous again. Where you never know what could lay beyond those distant stars.
Enterprise tried to do it, but got bogged down with franchise fatigue, questionable writing and network interference. Doesn't mean we can't try again!
The 22nd century is still filled with possibilities for amazing storytelling!
TOS is 23rd century. I want the era of the Birth of the Federation, in the 22nd.
The Berman era feels small to me because it was so rare that we ever got a sense of isolation. It rarely felt like we were going "where no man has gone before." The ships were hotels in space and everything was solved by polarizing the particles with the deflector dish, or some such technobabble. It never felt like we were truly "out there." The Federation was so monolithic, nothing ever really came off as a threat to its existence.
I want a fledgling Federation, holding on by a thread in it's early years. I want space to be dangerous and isolating. I want ships that have been hastily thrown together. I want conflict with very different alien races learning to work with eachother. I want flawed characters who know they are flawed, but are trying to be better to make this "thing" called a Federation actually survive.
Federation was always monolithic. TOS barely showed other Federation races. Plus it's not like TOS didn't have technobabble. It was briefer but also more inconsistent (so better but also worse)
And if anything a show like DS9 showed way more what "being out there" was. It's literally far away from Earth and even brought in aliens from the other side of the galaxy. And actually showed their lives and didn't flanderize them
I'm just not quite seeing what you're seeing. The early Federation era is limited to a small area of space we already know. Imo there's nothing out there about that
And if anything a show like DS9 showed way more what "being out there" was. It's literally far away from Earth and even brought in aliens from the other side of the galaxy. And actually showed their lives and didn't flanderize them
I'm just not quite seeing what you're seeing. The early Federation era is limited to a small area of space we already know. Imo there's nothing out there about that
Hence why I want to see a fledgling Federation. I want a UFP that is the new kid on the block. I want a Federation that is weak and recovering from the horrors of the Romulan War.
While being stationar. I'm find of DS9, but it was hardly a show about exploration.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
I understand. But I think there's a lot more to be gained with a bigger Federation when it comes to showing how the Federation works
You're right about that. I think they could do a spinoff of Picard or such set in that region of the galaxy but not make it stationary
However my overall point was more the base is situated in a region of the galaxy far from Earth so its already in the midst of the unknown as opposed to arriving to the unknown like in TOS or TNG
Ok
We've seen this for 29 seasons of TV. What more can they honestly show us that isn't exactly like what we've already seen.
Idk. The Federation boasts plurality yet mostly shows us a human centric PoV. I feel all those seasons dropped the ball on that
That's just the realities of television. Audiences connect with those they can relate to. Star Trek will always be told from a human centric point of view.
That's just the realities of television. Audiences connect with those they can relate to. Star Trek will always be told from a human centric point of view.
Well yeah but it doesn't have to be as human centric as it is
Either that or don't sell the Federation beyond what the budget can buy
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