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Where did Voyagers crew live after coming home?

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In my head, after Voyager returns home:
  • Janeway takes up a post at Starfleet Headquarters, lives in San Francisco with her dogs.
  • Chakotay returns to the former DMZ to help rebuild after the Dominion War and ultimately becomes involved in the regions bid for autonomy, which is successful and becomes an independent 'nation state'.
  • Tuvok returned home, where he underwent treatment for his condition, then returned to active duty. He was promoted to Commander and became the new First Officer onboard Voyager under Captain Erika Benteen.
  • Paris retired from Starfleet to be a stay-at-home dad, living on Earth.
  • Torres joined the S.C.E. as a consultant as she lived with her husband and daughter.
  • Kim took a posting on a deep space explorer.
  • EMH took a posting at Starfleet Medical.
  • Seven was extensively debriefed by Starfleet before joining an elite R&D team drawing in the best and brightest from across the Federation.
  • Neelix married and fathered a couple of children, whilst he worked to bring together several of the races near the colony, seeking to form his very own "Federation". He went on to serve as it's leader and saw his vision expand to include over twenty members before his death.
  • Kes returned to her homeworld, where she gathered up her people onboard a flotilla of ships and propelled them to the Alpha Quadrant, where they became a protectorate of the Federation as they helped them resettle. The effort used up all her energy and she dispersed into the cosmos, not before bringing together all the light that had once been inside her and gave 'birth' to an Ocampa named Linnis.


I like most of these, especially Kes's. But, I can't see Tom being a house-husband, nor can I see a badass like B'Elanna wanting him to. She chose the flyboy, not the dweeb.
 
3) What will happen if events are repeated and the Federation of the Planets (or what it will become after the Dominion War) makes the wrong choice AGAIN,

The federation didn't make the wrong choice, the Maquis did.

Benjamin Franklin: "There has never been a good war or a bad peace".

"Errand of Mercy":

KIRK: Even if you have some power that we don't understand, you have no right to dictate to our Federation
KOR: Or our Empire!
KIRK: How to handle their interstellar relations! We have the right
AYELBORNE: To wage war, Captain? To kill millions of innocent people? To destroy life on a planetary scale? Is that what you're defending?
KIRK: Well, no one wants war. But there are proper channels. People have a right to handle their own affairs. Eventually, we would have
AYELBORNE: Oh, eventually you will have peace, but only after millions of people have died. It is true that in the future, you and the Klingons will become fast friends. You will work together.

And that would seem to be the type of war the Federation fights with its enemies.

In "The Wounded":

Captain's log, stardate 44429.6. We are on a mapping survey near the Cardassian sector. It has been nearly a year since a peace treaty ended the long conflict between the Federation and Cardassia.

PICARD: Last time I was in this sector, I was on the Stargazer, running at warp speed ahead of a Cardassian warship.
TROI: Running, Captain? You? That's hard to believe.
PICARD: Believe it. I'd been sent to make preliminary overtures to a truce. I'd lowered my shields as a gesture of good will. But the Cardassians were not impressed. They had taken out most of my weapons and damaged the impulse engines before I could regroup and run.

So Picard was sent to negotiate a truce during the long running Cardassian War at least 12 years earlier when he command the Stargazer, but the peace treaty was only signed one year earlier. The Cardassian War was long.

So how many millions of person were killed during the Cardassian War? How many planets were devastated? How many millions or billions of persons were taken from their homes to refugee camps or to internment camps for enemy citizens? When the war was over millions or billions of refugees (though not all of them) could return to their homes and millions or billions of enemy citizens were freed.

As you remember, a few years later the Cardassians left Bajor and granted it independence. And Starfleet sent Sisko to operate a Bajoran station and help the Bajorans qualify for Federation membership while beginning a massive relief effort on Bajor. How could Federation ships cross Cardassian space to prepare a former Cardassian planet for Federation membership? The Cardassians would never allow Federation ships to cross Cardassian space for a purpose so much against Cardassian interests.

So the route to Bajor must have been through Federation space and/or unclaimed free space and/or Bajoran space. And as you may remember, Bajor is quite close to Cardassia Prime, the Cardassian capital planet and presumably home planet, the planet that would normally be in the center of the Cardassian Union. In fact, the DS9 technical manual claims that Bajor is only 5.5 light years from Cardassia Prime, making them next door neighbors!

So during the war the Federation conquered a route straight toward the home world of the Cardassians, stopping only one solar system away, and then later attempting to add that solar system to the Federation and leave Cardassia Prime almost defenseless in the event of another war. Or even worse, the Federation conquered all the systems on one side of Cardassia Prime, making what was once the central world of the Cardassion Union a world on the border. The war must have been very fierce and bloody for the Cardassians to lose that badly.

And as a result of the relatively few Maquis being dissatisfied with the Cardassians ruling their worlds, they started a rebellion in the hope of staring another bloody war with the Cardassians. It is quite possible that Cardassian anger at Maquis activities was a major factor in Gul Dukat deciding to join the Dominion, leading to the Dominion War.

I don't know how many people died in the Domion War, but it was probably billions. In "Statistical Probabilities" a group of geniuses calculated that:

BASHIR: If we fight, there will be over nine hundred billion casualties. If we surrender, no one dies.

So the selfish activities of the Maquis were probably partially responsible for the terrible Dominion War and probably billions of deaths.

The Maquis was wrong, the Federation was right.
 
The federation didn't make the wrong choice, the Maquis did. So the selfish activities of the Maquis were probably partially responsible for the terrible Dominion War and probably billions of deaths.
The Maquis was wrong, the Federation was right.

MAGolding, if you ever read my posts, you should know that I have no sympathy for the Maquis and its members. Indeed, I consider them as criminals but terrorists (especially for those who were former Starfleet officers) too, even if in Voyager, we are expected to believe that they are freedom fighters and even heroes! :rolleyes:

For me, Chakotay & his friends had every interest in working with Janeway if they wanted to find a way to go home in relative good conditions/protection. With the bonus to live, for some of them, in a significant comfort, instead of ending in Voyager's brigs for the remainder of an undefined trip or worst, being landed on a planet with the minimum to meet their needs and with the risk to be à la merci of unexpected and very dangerous ennemies against which they have virtually no chance of survival).

Even if I would understand that under Janeway's insistence/pressure (?), the Federation accepts to make a gesture, like a substential reduction in their prison sentence, the former members of the Maquis shouldn't benefit of a total absolution or pardon. Indeed, no matter what their reasons or excuses were, their actions placed the Federation in a real trouble; organization who had collectivelly and above all, legally, signed a peace agreement with the Cardassian Empire in stopping a reasonable choice for all, surely after having weighed the pros and cons for awhile. In acting as they did (and often in the violence), the Maquis took the risk of aggravating an already sensitive situation, without thinking about the consequences. Starfleet officiers and surely innocent people died because of them.

Surely am I misspoke but when I talked about "wrong choice", it was about the Federation deciding to give a second chance to former Maquis people, especially in forcing its forced army, Starfleet, to allow them to resume their commissions or simply to offer them ones, because well, "traitors of a day, always traitors", right?! :whistle:-> Chakotay, B'Elena Torres (although they showed in the past, how they were able to settle for an "uncomfortable" situation quite easily, as it served their interests -> as a new mother - and the stepdaughter of an influent admiral, situation that will surely saved her skin ‎more than one time once back on Earth -, I don't see B'Elena going to war AGAIN, risking on her way, everything she managed to build: life and durable friendship. Same for Chakotay, especially if thanks to his former Captain and friend, Starfleet offered him, his dream job in Anthropology or fault of a position in Starfleet, a job or a mission on behalf of the Federation on his planet, with or without Seven) but more particularly, some of their friends, more fanatic, will always find a pretext to defend a new cause that will appear just in their eyes - using the violence again if necessarely! - but, which will go against the Federation's will/policy. And the Federation will fall into the same traps as before, except that this time, those who will be in the new Maquis - or whatever the name -, will be stronger because they will have more resources, more training at the expense Starfleet! And this next time will end tragically because the Federation and Starfleet will refuseto be ripped/mocked again! :shrug:
-> good feelings never last long! :whistle:
 
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