Where Did That Come From? (Scott/Chloe Relationship)

[Technobuilder]

My initial reaction was very similar to everyone else thus far.

However, I wonder if they're actually getting the obvious out of the way as a means of developing a deeper connection between Chloe and Eli later on. It a sense, her dad's death had put her on an emotional roller coaster sitting right beside Lt. Bangs-A-Lot (Who seems to be someone with a major sex addiction)

The most telling point was during the Lottery when after everyone boards the shuttle, he makes no suggestive motions, movements, glances, hesitations, or other various tells when Chloe doesn't show up.

He doesn't even Blink. I found that the most telling.

Chloe is just the next in a long line of girls he's been with trying to make himself feel better (I'd lay even money he doesn't even realize what's he's doing consciously.)

I'm hoping that Lt. Scott ends up being the emotional rebound for Chloe following her dad's death, and Eli doesn't have to chase the girl, the girl will start to notice him. (Once she's propperly smacked up side the head when she walks in on Lt. Scott and Sgt. Tatas.)

 

[vedek]

Yeah I thought he was banging that other officer...

 

[Snaploud]

I'm fine with them sleeping together. I'll agree, though, that Chloe's comment about "never feeling closer with anybody" was a little out there. I thought she was supposed to be 23 (not 15).

 

[Jenee]

I mean, gods forbid the everyman math-boy geek genius have a shot in hell with the hot chick, right? Noooo, we can't have that. The strapping young Lieutenant who in the pilot was boning some other military chick, he's got to get the girl. That's the cliche, right?

Sevens marry sevens. Threes marry threes. fives marry fives.

That's life.

Geeky, mathboy, genius ... he's a 3 (+/-). Chloe, I'm guessing buy the men's reactions to her, is a 7 (+/-)

Eli is her friend.

Did you forget about the "Darkness" shower scene as well?

I was beginning to think I was the only one who viewed that scene that way.

 

[vedek]

Eli wants to be more than her friend. Why is it if a geek is interested in a girl its always ALWAYS she wants to be a friend? Why? Im a geek and I want to do her, to heck with that friendship BS.

 

[Jenee]

Eli hasta realize it doesn't matter what he wants, but what they each want. Just because he wants her for more than a friend doesn't mean she will feel the same way.

If he doesn't want to be her friend just because she doesn't see him as "boyfriend material" then he's far more shallow than what he thinks she is.

 

[Snaploud]

Eli hasta realize it doesn't matter what he wants, but what they each want. Just because he wants her for more than a friend doesn't mean she will feel the same way.

Agreed.

If he doesn't want to be her friend just because she doesn't see him as "boyfriend material" then he's far more shallow than what he thinks she is.

I don't agree. He has feelings for her, and those feelings aren't going to be returned. The most mature thing would be for him to spend his time around other people (thereby lessening any attachment). He should be polite, but keeping up a close friendship is just asking for disaster.

 

[-Brett-]

River... I mean Chloe fucking Eli at this point would have been even more implausible than the wormholes, transporters, and hyperdrives.

If the writers had wanted to do something really unexpected, they'd have found some role for her that didn't focus solely on her reproductive organs.

 

[Harvey]

River... I mean Chloe fucking Eli at this point would have been even more implausible than the wormholes, transporters, and hyperdrives.

Agreed. Eli is already a walking and talking wish-fulfillment character for a specific part of the fanbase. Fat college drop-out who is recruited into a secret space program after playing a MMORPG endlessly? That's hard enough to swallow (and I've criticized it), but raising that by having the show's sexpot fall for him, too? I don't know if I 'd turn of the f*cking television, or keep watching to see what perverse pandering they'd think of next.

If the writers had wanted to do something really unexpected, they'd have found some role for her that didn't focus solely on her reproductive organs.

It would be nice if there was a role for her to fill. But she's not a scientist, she's not in a position of authority, and she's not at all military trained. There's not a logical spot where she's going to fit in, and the writers haven't expended much creativity in thinking themselves out of that conundrum. Instead, she's either a sounding board for exposition, a damsel in distress, or a sexy babe for the males to lust over.

I hope to hell she grows into somebody worthwhile, or they end the character.

 

[Yoda]

Eli hasta realize it doesn't matter what he wants, but what they each want. Just because he wants her for more than a friend doesn't mean she will feel the same way.

If he doesn't want to be her friend just because she doesn't see him as "boyfriend material" then he's far more shallow than what he thinks she is.

Right... so it's important what each of them wants, except that if Eli doesn't want a female friend who has rejected him romantically he should be her platonic friend anyway, probably in a semi-permanent state of longing and rejection because....?

Sounds to me like the only important thing in your book is what she wants.

 

[O'Dib]

She hasn't rejected him, as he hasn't exactly made an "offer", has he? In typical geek fashion, he gives no indication of romantic interest, and the possibility doesn't even cross her mind. So she starts thinking of him as a brother, by which point it's too late to realize a romance, and unlikely that he will be ready to back out of the friendship.

 

[Yoda]

She hasn't rejected him, as he hasn't exactly made an "offer", has he? In typical geek fashion, he gives no indication of romantic interest, and the possibility doesn't even cross her mind. So she starts thinking of him as a brother, by which point it's too late to realize a romance, and unlikely that he will be ready to back out of the friendship.

Meh, cut him some slack, in SG Universe universe terms, they've known each other for like two days? Maybe he was gearing up to it. Regardless of her obliviousness to Eli's feelings, it's not unreasonable for him to no longer want to be her friend. There are a couple of 'realistic' ways to take Eli/Chloe. One I'd like to avoid is him staying her 'friend' while silently pining for her girl parts, and never getting at them. I want Eli to be a bitter jackass to both Scott and Chloe, for all time. I think that's probably too much to hope for in this show... but I'll save my anger until I'm proven right

Besides, Eli getting Chloe in the end defies all realism and logic, so they shouldn't go that route. And Eli in friend pining mode probably just makes half the audience feel crappy watching it as they relive their own friend zone miseries!

Have Eli kill off Scott on an away mission, and make it look like an accident! If you do that, dear SGU writers, I promise to buy all the Blurays.

 

[Australis]

Besides, Eli getting Chloe in the end defies all realism and logic, so they shouldn't go that route.

Well, obviously you haven't watched According To Jim!

 

[O'Dib]

She hasn't rejected him, as he hasn't exactly made an "offer", has he? In typical geek fashion, he gives no indication of romantic interest, and the possibility doesn't even cross her mind. So she starts thinking of him as a brother, by which point it's too late to realize a romance, and unlikely that he will be ready to back out of the friendship.

Meh, cut him some slack, in SG Universe universe terms, they've known each other for like two days? Maybe he was gearing up to it..

Granted.. I guess I was projecting, just a little.

 

[Yoda]

Besides, Eli getting Chloe in the end defies all realism and logic, so they shouldn't go that route.

Well, obviously you haven't watched According To Jim!

And I'm not ashamed of that fact

 

[AntonyF]

I thought this must have been the woman he did in the pilot.. I guess not. They're all rather non descript to me.

Also I thinky the geeky one likes her. The way he looked pained as they went off together, and the way he was tetchy when they came back after doing it.

I want to point this out, because it was VERY subtle and most of us viewers wouldn't pick up on it.

 

[Harvey]

Is that what passes for subtlety these days, or are you being facetious?

 

[AntonyF]

or are you being facetious?

Yes. Although more sarcastic.

 

[Harvey]

There I go again, being dense. Nothing to see here, folks.

 

[Pauln6]

My initial reaction was very similar to everyone else thus far.

However, I wonder if they're actually getting the obvious out of the way as a means of developing a deeper connection between Chloe and Eli later on. It a sense, her dad's death had put her on an emotional roller coaster sitting right beside Lt. Bangs-A-Lot (Who seems to be someone with a major sex addiction)

The most telling point was during the Lottery when after everyone boards the shuttle, he makes no suggestive motions, movements, glances, hesitations, or other various tells when Chloe doesn't show up.

He doesn't even Blink. I found that the most telling.

Chloe is just the next in a long line of girls he's been with trying to make himself feel better (I'd lay even money he doesn't even realize what's he's doing consciously.)

I'm hoping that Lt. Scott ends up being the emotional rebound for Chloe following her dad's death, and Eli doesn't have to chase the girl, the girl will start to notice him. (Once she's propperly smacked up side the head when she walks in on Lt. Scott and Sgt. Tatas.)

I thought that too. He was totally business as usual when she didn't show up. I loved that. Subtle enough for a lot of people to miss.

I haven't seen seasons 4 and 5 of Lost yet but Hurley was continuously portrayed as a one-note loser. They're adding some depth to Eli - which is such a relief - and I'm hoping that stronger bonds will develop if he matures as a character. If the show is going to be more subtle and character-driven than other shows, they need to keep character fodder for the future after all. The SGU is going for a BSG vibe so the relationships may be quite screwed up. This is just the beginning!

I'm more frustrated at US tv's tendency to re-use the same character cliches. Lesbians and chubby geek boys we have aplenty but where is the gay man or fat chick. I'm being facetious because the characters in SGU look as though they are going to be rounded out to be much more than one-note but think about about how many male geeks or lesbians we have in the genre overall by comparison. Actually, I can't think of a single gay male 'central' character apart from Clare's school friend in Heroes and Andrew in Buffy where in both cases their sexuality was masked behind innuendo. There is Torchwood of course but that goes so far in the other direction as to be in a league of its own!

I'm also curious to know whether the central gay relationship made it into the US movie version of State of Play. Has anybody seen it?