Where did Nero / the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

[Robert Maxwell]

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The one flaw I saw in Nero's plan is that he had no way of knowing in what time period Spock would reappear. What if Spock had been thrown 1000 years into the past? Or into the future? I suppose that's why he would have settled for young Spock, but it seemed like he really wanted old Spock to suffer, since that's who he held responsible.

 

[Norrin Radd]

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It's always good to have a bit of mystery.

Who cares what happened?

 

[cooleddie74]

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To be fair, Nero was one of the weakest parts of the movie. He had the most cut scenes that would have helped explain his motivations better. He was a superior villain to Shinzon, Ru'afo or Dr. Tolian Soran...but no Khan or Borg Queen by a longshot.

 

[Brent]

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The one flaw I saw in Nero's plan is that he had no way of knowing in what time period Spock would reappear. What if Spock had been thrown 1000 years into the past? Or into the future? I suppose that's why he would have settled for young Spock, but it seemed like he really wanted old Spock to suffer, since that's who he held responsible.

He did know, he had calculated out the time when Spock was going to arrive, that is how he knew where to be when Spock's ship would come through.

 

[thesadpanda]

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Apparently I'm the only one but I thought it added a lot to the menace of Nero that he just disappeared for 25 years. It seemed pretty badass that he was out there, maybe on the other side of Klingon space for 25 years, and then one day there's some comm chatter about a lightning storm in space and a fleet of Klingon warships being destroyed and then a Federation armada comes out of warp, sees his ship over Vulcan and gets cut to pieces. They didn't know where he was for 25 years, why should we.

 

[cooleddie74]

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^
True. And I understand the creepy aspect of that and appreciate it.

But the producers filmed scenes that say where he was for at least part of that 25 years and should have left at least some or most of them in the theatrical cut.

 

[Aragorn]

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I wouldn't have minded the Klingon stuff being left in. Or maybe a line referencing it when Nero was talking to Pike.

Though if Nero was hellbent on destroying the Federation, maybe he could've spent some of that time building up his forces... teaming up with the Dominion, Cardassians, whoever. That would set up a weakened Federation versus a major threat.

 

[cooleddie74]

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Nero DID destroy Vulcan of all places, though.

Flawed, somewhat incoherent villain or not...he did what almost no other TREK villain has ever accomplished. Wipe out a founding member of the Federation.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

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Apparently I'm the only one but I thought it added a lot to the menace of Nero that he just disappeared for 25 years. It seemed pretty badass that he was out there, maybe on the other side of Klingon space for 25 years, and then one day there's some comm chatter about a lightning storm in space and a fleet of Klingon warships being destroyed and then a Federation armada comes out of warp, sees his ship over Vulcan and gets cut to pieces. They didn't know where he was for 25 years, why should we.

You're not the only one. I happen to agree.

 

[Jeyl]

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Is it possible that Nero 'wanted' to be captured? He does after all say in the trailer "The wait is over", which I would assume means that he was capable of escaping anytime.

 

[cooleddie74]

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I guess the DVD release will explain most of what we can't.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

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Who would be dumb enough to want the Klingons to catch them?

 

[The Wormhole]

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Let's see if I understand these supposed deleted scenes properly. Ner and his crew are captured by Klingons and sent to Rura Penthe. What happens to Narada? For 25 years the Klingons have a fucking Space Octopus from 100 years into the future and they do nothing with it? They don't study it, attempt to backwards engineer the thing, or even just stick a crew on it and use it in battle? With that thing there would be no stopping them.

But no, I guess they just impound the thing at the Rura Penthe shipyards so that when Nero does escape he can have his old ship back. Fuck this movie is so stupid.

 

[SonicRanger]

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I like to think that Nero wasn't able to calculate Spock's arrival to just one possibility. Instead, he and his crew were only able to narrow down the possibilities to a few dozen, and they spent 25 years shuffling about the galaxy, going to each one of these possible space-time exits until they found the right one, making them angrier at each failure. It might be that they just wanted to kill him at first, but after 25 years of Ahab-like chases across the galaxy, Nero became more and more bitter.

 

[Ayelbourne]

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Was the Narada really that crippled after George Kirk's attack?

From the way she looked, the ship was pretty much dead in the water after the Kelvin rammed her. They couldn't even intercept all those shuttles.

 

[Jeri]

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^ ^ Yeah, it probably took them a year just to repair the ship. Not sure how they operate anyway; it's outside normal channels, like pirates. They probably moored up at some cove, drank rum and chased wenches.

 

[NCC74894A]

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^ ^ Another possibility is that the Klingons showed up fairly soon after the Kelvin incident, captured Nero and company but thought the Narada was too badly damaged to be of any value (and too damn big to tow away in any case), so they just left it where it was, thus making it easy for Nero and company to find when they escaped.

 

[miraclefan]

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I wouldn't have minded the Klingon stuff being left in. Or maybe a line referencing it when Nero was talking to Pike.

Though if Nero was hellbent on destroying the Federation, maybe he could've spent some of that time building up his forces... teaming up with the Dominion, Cardassians, whoever. That would set up a weakened Federation versus a major threat.

I guess the DVD release will explain most of what we can't.

We can hope!

 

[GeorgeKirk]

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I understand why the Klingon prison subplot was cut, but why couldn't they have explained it by saying that the collision with the Kelvin broke the Narada's warp drive, and they'd been bopping around at relativistic speeds ever since, so they only experienced a few months while the rest of the universe experienced 25 years?

 

[Samurai8472]

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Didn't they also state, though, that after Nero managed to escape from Rura Penthe he destroyed 47 Klingon ships? So, how large a fleet must that have been 25 year earlier that was able to beat the Narada – a ship from 200 years in the future?

Ah the line "the wait is over" makes more sense now.