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WHen will you watch Discovery? Will you get All Access?

Getting it wrong makes less money for the shareholders than getting it right.

CBSAA isn't free TV, nor am I demanding it should be, so your last sentence is not relevant to the discussion here. Nor is free TV a guarantee of failure.
 
Streaming is the future, but remote and rural locations are left behind when the install costs for the service company is not worth the limited revenue from just a few people. They and those who can't afford the service use broadcast. People who can afford at least $100 monthly seem to erase from their thinking that there are millions who must choose between such luxuries or food, shelter, and electric.

CBSAA is joining a market and getting it wrong in a narcissistic, corporate suit manner by making it more about what they want.
My Direct TV was 100 bucks a month a few years ago. I went broadcast TV(16 free HD channels) with antenna and Roku. I too have Amazon Prime and Netflix, but also finally added sling TV to get basic cable for 20 bucks. So my total monthly bill is now 30 bucks a month and I watch way more TV now then I did with Direct TV! (Not to mention every Star Trek series is free on either Netflix or Amazon!) So yes streaming is the future and certainly much more economical, add an antenna and you are good to go for dirt cheap
 
There you go! Understanding your options is important so you don't fall into allowing Big Corporate to tell you how they want you to watch and pay.

And yes, we're making much use of Amazon's streamed Trek library. Even though I have every DVD, I'd actually have to get off the couch to insert them. ;) But because Amazon could lose Trek, the physical media remains essential.
 
Unlike CBSAA, for which you pay a recurring cost AND watch commercials, which I do not accept and will not subscribe.

You don't have to watch commercials on CBSAA. Or Hulu, for that matter.

CBS job is to make money for their shareholders. Been that way for as long as they've existed. Putting Trek on free TV just so it can be cancelled after 13 episodes does nothing for either the fans nor shareholders.

Yes, thank you!
 
You don't have to watch commercials on CBSAA. Or Hulu, for that matter.!
Oh, but when I make my arguments, the counterpoint is often "Wrong! Hulu has commercials!" Make up your minds.

So I'll generalize in the same way and call you out as a liar for saying I wouldn't have to watch commercials on CBSAA. Are you a shareholder shilling for them? Or you can provide an unequivocal source saying there will be no commercials on CBSAA and Huru, with absolutely no qualifiers or conditions. Yes, I see the loophole in your wording, and it's dishonest.
 
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Oh, but when I make my arguments, the counterpoint is often "Wrong! Hulu has commercials!" Make up your minds.

So I'll generalize in the same way and call you out as a liar for saying I wouldn't have to watch commercials on CBSAA. Are you a shareholder shilling for them? Or you can provide an unequivocal source saying there will be no commercials on CBSAA and Huru, with absolutely no qualifiers or conditions. Yes, I see the loophole in your wording, and it's dishonest.

Hee, someone's worked up! We get it, you don't understand economics in general, and entertainment industry economics in particular, but there's no reason to get rude and combative about it. There are plenty of nice posters here who do understand it and don't mind explaining it to you.

Anyway, the unequivocal sources would be www.hulu.com and www.cbs.com/all-access. Go to either site and you see they both offer subscriptions with no commercials.

You don't have to watch commercials on CBSAA. Or Hulu, for that matter.

You do unless you pay MORE...

Yes, true... but why shouldn't that be the case? It would obviously be lovely for the consumer if expensive scripted TV was made available both free of cost and commercials, but expensive scripted TV is... expensive. Someone has to eventually pay enough for the content to make it profitable to produce. Entertainment is a business, not a charity. (Maybe they could make it all up with product placement deals! Cover the uniforms with more logos than a race car driver. Before we leave on this mission, we just need to pick up the new communicators and tricorders at Target. Everyone has a Red Bull in front of them in the Conference Room. Just call it the Product Integration timeline and give it away for free, the fandom will love it!)

I wonder sometimes if it might be better to eliminate the lower-priced, with-commercials streaming options from these services, and offer the no-commercials plan only. Then you eliminate the strange reaction of people becoming enraged that they can't get no-commercials at the with-commercials price.

But on balance I suspect you get more people who want to save the money and don't mind the commercials (they're just underrepresented on obsessive fan message boards ;)).
 
I'll watch the pilot on CBS and make my decision then. They'll either grab me with a well done pilot episode, or they won't. I don't like the idea of subscribing to a streaming service for just one show, so that's already a rub against this whole deal.
 
Oh, but when I make my arguments, the counterpoint is often "Wrong! Hulu has commercials!" Make up your minds.

So I'll generalize in the same way and call you out as a liar for saying I wouldn't have to watch commercials on CBSAA. Are you a shareholder shilling for them? Or you can provide an unequivocal source saying there will be no commercials on CBSAA and Huru, with absolutely no qualifiers or conditions. Yes, I see the loophole in your wording, and it's dishonest.
Sakonna is right about Hulu. They do offer a no ads option but I just don't pay the premium because I don't care about ads that much. I haven't subscribed to CBSAA yet, but they do advertise themselves as having no commercials, but again they offer ads with a lower cost and no ads at a higher cost.

And let's not reduce this discussion to accusing people of being CBS shareholders. Come on. This isn't reddit. We're better than that. :rolleyes:
 
Oh, but when I make my arguments, the counterpoint is often "Wrong! Hulu has commercials!" Make up your minds.

So I'll generalize in the same way and call you out as a liar for saying I wouldn't have to watch commercials on CBSAA. Are you a shareholder shilling for them? Or you can provide an unequivocal source saying there will be no commercials on CBSAA and Huru, with absolutely no qualifiers or conditions. Yes, I see the loophole in your wording, and it's dishonest.
Dial back the rhetoric, please. No need to be accusing people of being liars or CBS plants.
 
I understand it was rhetoric. I matched the rhetoric. Seemed fair, though I understand your point, and it's why I phrased it as a question instead of a accusation.
You don't have to watch commercials on CBSAA. Or Hulu, for that matter.
Neither CBSAA nor Hulu is commercial-free by default. You have to pay more. And even then on CBSAA there will STILL be commercials - just not during the show. And advertising is what pays for free TV, which still works for broadcasters, so Sakonna is being specious there too. Sakonna's post is worthy only of slimy lawyers and politicians who use misleading language in order to obscure their true intent.
 
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Neither CBSAA nor Hulu is commercial-free by default. You have to pay more.
Why does that matter? Netflix charges a higher fee and you don't get ads. That's just fine. But I like paying less for Hulu because I'm a person who isn't bothered by them and get to pay less. I don't see why having the option is offensive.
 
What mattered to me is Sakonna's specious language - not the fact itself.

I just won't subscribe to anything with commercials. I do accept commercials when I'm not charged for viewing them. Figure out your budgets and contracts accordingly, Hollwood. Saving money for better things than avoiding commercials is important to me. Subscription TV started as a way to avoid commercials - period - no avoidance tiers. It has since been corrupted in the same way anything is monetized to whatever the market will bear once it has enough people addicted to the service. I have the willpower and patience to kick the habit and refuse to buy in and go quietly. Even if it's Star Trek.
 
You have to pay for TV service. It's a monthly fee, plus the cost of renting the cable box. I'm really confused as to why you think tv is free...
Actually TV is still delivered free 'over the air'. Yes, no cable channels, but for the small price of a digital antenna - you can get a lot of 'free TV'; even today.
 
Actually TV is still delivered free 'over the air'. Yes, no cable channels, but for the small price of a digital antenna - you can get a lot of 'free TV'; even today.
Yeah my ignorance on that point needed correction. But that model is so antithetical to my needs it's just something I've never considered. I equate it to things like VHS -- you can, but why?
 
Sorry if this questioned has been answered already but where will us overseas people see it?
We don't have CBS All Access here.
 
Being in Australia I'll probably watch it on Netflix as I already have it. My concern is if there will be a delay because I don't trust Twitter not to spoil it.
 
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