When was the NX-01 most likely refitted?

[Dukhat]

The Romulan War took place before TATV, and the ship didn't have the secondary hull in the latter.

 

[Yistaan]

The Romulan War took place before TATV, and the ship didn't have the secondary hull in the latter.

TATV only had a montage shot that was more of a metahorical homage thing, I think (someone earlier in the thread mentioned that a bridge screen apparently depicted the "normal" NX-01 in the episode though)

 

[Dukhat]

TATV only had a montage shot that was more of a metahorical homage thing, I think (someone earlier in the thread mentioned that a bridge screen apparently depicted the "normal" NX-01 in the episode though)

Yes, that was me.

 

[korblborp]

I hates the Akiraprise and the Refit more so. It squishes the technological timeline of ship design wayyy too much. Should had been a sort of Icarus-Daedalus design -

Hoyever -

Logically, it'll be during the Romulan War. Enterprise takes a bang up. Gets the refit, comes back roaring in time to help end the War. Big swooping angle shot of it roaring down on Romulan birds during the battle of Charon like thing. Something easily seen in a conceptual S5-S6. Maybe even Enterprise gets hit hard during the early stages of the war, if not the first battle, but more romantically, Enterprise does another sort of 'Xindi Run', maybe tries to stop the Romulan bio-bombing of Andoria *which apparently is a thing that happened*, gets banged up.

Columbia could had had such a refit 'first', thus the Columbia Class angle stick, the 'Starfleet Museum' is supposed to be showing the NX-01 in all materials about it, so this makes the most sense. Doing it after the war but decommissioning the ship won't fly in any fleet, and doing it to take it off for TATV doesn't make sense either. Logically, thus, it makes sense that 2156-2160, Ent got the refit.

i never liked the NX refit because it seemed like thay were trying to transform it into a later ship rather than fix it's problems.

 

[Tosk]

Is it worth reminding everyone that Matalas seems to conflate refits and brand new ships?
(So who knows what that NX refit really is? )

 

[Dukhat]

Is it worth reminding everyone that Matalas seems to conflate refits and brand new ships?
(So who knows what that NX refit really is? )

While he indeed does have that problem, this particular instance really isn’t about that. The ship we saw at the Museum was clearly based on Doug Drexler’s secondary hull addition to the NX-01, which the ship did not have when it was decommissioned in TATV, based on what we saw onscreen. So the issue isn’t so much ‘is it a refit or not,’ but rather ‘when did this change to the ship take place.’

 

[Tosk]

While he indeed does have that problem, this particular instance really isn’t about that. The ship we saw at the Museum was clearly based on Doug Drexler’s secondary hull addition to the NX-01, which the ship did not have when it was decommissioned in TATV, based on what we saw onscreen. So the issue isn’t so much ‘is it a refit or not,’ but rather ‘when did this change to the ship take place.’

I should have aimed that comment more specifically, I was thinking of it more in terms of people accepting off-screen "creator statements" as to what the ship is.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Possibly after her retirement, as a proof of concept. Or whenever you want.

IMO it's a fugly upgrade.

 

[FederationHistorian]

If we're looking at non-canon works, the game Star Trek Legacy has the normal looking NX-01 as late as 2159. That being said, that game has other problems including mistakenly using a TMP model for the TOS Enterprise in one mission I think, and the appearance of the Borg after Nemesis contradicts the premise shown in Picard that all hostile Borg were pretty much scrap after Voyager (unless T'Uerell's Borg somehow were immune to this like Jurati's)

Well, there’s no evidence that the secondary hull was not detachable, so some event could have led to it being removed from Enterprise prior to the events of Star Trek Legacy. But, the novels suggest that it takes six months to install the secondary hull onto Enterprise. Meaning any date between mid-July 2155 (six months after the Terra Prime incident) and 2159 is fair game. And the hull could have been reinstalled between 2159 and 2160.

Then either the secondary hull got damaged again and uninstalled once more, and it was not reinstalled again until Enterprise returns home after the war and the Federation Charter was signed. Or it was still there in 2161 and the holoprogram is wrong.