When the studio suits meddle in the production

[Tosk]

That brings to mind Dark City, where the director was forced to add the opening narration

One of the worst of all time.

"Here's me, Kiefer Sutherland, explaining the entire mystery of what will slowly unfold for the first half of the film..."

 

[Aragorn]

I'm watching Snowpiercer and I looked at the Wikipedia entry for the making of the movie.
Harvey Weinstein wanted to cut over twenty minutes from the movie and add an opening/closing narration and a happy ending.
A disastrous test screening of his preferred cut meant that director Boon Joon-ho got the final say; however, Weinstein got his revenge by releasing the movie in only 356 theaters.

Weinstein destroyed a lot of movies by cutting them down to two hours so they could have more showings per day.

For some reason Stallone did it to himself once, completely butchering Cobra to get it down to 90 minutes so it could have more showings per day because Top Gun was owning the box office.

 

[Set Harth]

One of the worst of all time.

"Here's me, Kiefer Sutherland, explaining the entire mystery of what will slowly unfold for the first half of the film..."

also pronouncing tuning as "chooning"

 

[Tosk]

also pronouncing tuning as "chooning"

Don't a lot of people pronounce it that way?

 

[Mudd]

It's vanishing unlikely that any of the problems with Freejack can be attributed to the casting of Rene Russo.

 

[Owain Taggart]

A writer friend recently asked AI for the title of one of his own stories.

The AI replied by offering the title of a story by a different author, that had once appeared in the same anthology as the first author's story.

That had to have been quite confusing. I've noticed that AI has issues when it comes to obscurity. I've noticed things the AI has stated that were blatantly wrong by conflating information. In one instance, I was searching for some game information, but because the game itself was quite obscure, it would bring up information on an unrelated game, characters, and situations that were not at all part of the game I was searching for.

 

[valkyrie013]

didn't Weinstien want to cut Princess monoki, but Ghibli said HELL NO, after he butchered a previous release.

Many Many Many a movie that the suits got involved with at various times in the movie. Mostly for worse, but sometimes better.

 

[The Salt Umpire]

That had to have been quite confusing. I've noticed that AI has issues when it comes to obscurity. I've noticed things the AI has stated that were blatantly wrong by conflating information. In one instance, I was searching for some game information, but because the game itself was quite obscure, it would bring up information on an unrelated game, characters, and situations that were not at all part of the game I was searching for.

Frank Herbert was right.

 

[tharpdevenport]

A lot of films have studio meddling, some smaller, some larger, some like re-making the whole film. Coincidentally, when I clicked on this thread, I was watching a video on various production issues with the Men in black films, which includes studio changes (a number of them: the one you shot tested poorly, make a new one, new ones tests way better).

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[JD]

Aren't there so different versions of Blade Runner because the studio forced so many changes on Ridley Scott when they were making it?

 

[Tosk]

Yet another one that the Weinsteins "meddled with" (to put it mildly), when they made Wes Craven throw out 90% of what he had filmed for Cursed and start over with a new script and partially new cast. And even after that, they went back on their agreement for the film to be rated R, and had it cut to PG-13 against Craven's wishes.

The only upside to it is that they ended up losing a lot of money over the whole thing.

 

[tharpdevenport]

It also doesn't hurt he has a following even after his death, a film franchise that keeps going, and people who like him in the industry, while on the other hand, you have a fat disgusting pervert everyone hates who now hopefully shares a cell with a horny fat slob named Bubba who has seen Deliverance a bazillion times.

 

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

Aren't there so different versions of Blade Runner because the studio forced so many changes on Ridley Scott when they were making it?

More likely because Spielberg and Lucas kept making minimal changes to their more popular movies, while inspiring Coppola and Ridley Scott to do the same.

 

[Noname Given]

A writer friend recently asked AI for the title of one of his own stories.

The AI replied by offering the title of a story by a different author, that had once appeared in the same anthology as the first author's story.

Current AI IS 'slop' in itself. I never trust any answers/summaries from AI. Current models have no way to actually validate any info as factual - their Algorithm just looks for how many occurrences of the same info and if it's beyond a certain threshold, the AL considers it 'a fact'.

Basically is a more curated form of: "Garbage in, Garbage out"