When Do You Want To See Burnham Become The STD Captain?
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So, no redemption is possible?
Go on Youtube. Reviewers and commenters all use STD.
Kirk committed mutiny in the films, but after he saved the world... starfleet looked the other way.
They'll do the same with Burnham. It's inevitable. If they weren't going to have her take charge, they would have made Lorca a competent, heroic Captain, instead of an unstable war monger.
I don't know at least Kirk was originally a Captain and you no doubt have a better knowledge of the instances involving him. Burnham should be imprisoned. She is not. To leap frog to the top job on a ship? I hope that shark doesn't jump too soon.
We've been told since Discovery was first announced that the lead character would not be the Captain. If Burnham does something heroic to end the war or whatever, I can see her being reinstated with at most the commander rank she had before the mutiny. If Lorca isn't sticking around, then either Saru will become Captain with Burnham as first officer or they'll get a new Captain, Saru will remain first officer, and Burnham will be the Chief Science Officer.
Burnham would not work well as Saru's XO.
Redemption at a personal level, maybe. The crew of the Equinox lost rank. Tom Paris lost rank. Really I don't know what the rules are within this present Discovery version of Starfleet's command structure. Both the crew of Equinox and Tom didn't have the official sentence Burnham did (though previously Tom was serving in a penal colony for being dishonourably discharged). Michael was stripped of rank and should be imprisoned. At the very least she should be without rank.
Why should it matter if the mutineer was a formerly a Captain?
No he was serving time for treason. Being dishonourably discharged isn't a crime, it's the result of being convicted of a crime or unacceptable behaviour.
Tom Paris was discharged from starfleet because he was negligent and killed people and lied to get away with it. But it's totally cool for him to get a second chance, right?
Wasn't that Locarno?
No it was paris as well. The orginal intention was for Paris to be Locarno, but then the showrunners realised they would need to pay the writer of 'The First Duty' royalties for using the character. So they just gave Paris a similar back story. This is from Memory Alpha:
Upon graduating from the Academy, Paris was assigned to the USS Exeter. His career in Starfleet was short-lived, however, and ended after he was involved in covering up his own piloting error which had led to the death of three fellow officers at Caldik Prime. Despite later telling the truth, he was discharged from Starfleet following the incident. He once remarked that "the ghosts of those three dead officers came to me in the middle of the night and taught me the true meaning of Christmas" when asked why he finally confessed. (VOY: "Caretaker", "Non Sequitur")
As demonstrated by Kirk, if an officer demonstrates service to the Federation then they can be reinstated. Paris was out of necessity, but it wasn't like he was stripped of his rank after returning to Earth. Clearly, there is precedence in Starfleet regulations for redemption.
Why not is more my question? I'm demonstrating that the commission of a crime, especially one admitted, shouldn't preclude an officer from command, especially in this so called "enlightened" humanity.
Also, Wesley Crusher covered up another cadet's death and was able to continue forward.
Commission of a crime shouldn't be ignored either.. and Wesley and Tom and Kirk aren't exactly references Michael will be able to use. Michael doesn't hold any rank, so thoughts of her becoming Captain and over better qualified and higher ranked candidates with more experience and service would be a big stretch.
