It's a big long stormy thing in space that spaceships can't help flying into despite having the explicit ability to fly around
when did TOS take place, 23rd century or 22nd century
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Don't let Dr. Soran off so easily and blame it on the Nexus...
The Australian Aborigines have been a group of preliterate societies for tens of thousand of years. Thus it seems very probably that the orally recorded history of each group would have gone back only a few decades or centuries before contact with European settlers.
So our year AD 2019, or 2019 CE, could be many different years in the year counts of various Aboriginal groups. It might be 175 in one case, 259 in another, 457 in a third, 274 in a fourth, 914 in a fifth, 666 in a sixth, 1014 in a seventh, 747 in an eighth, and so on.
I've read between 1.000 and 1.999 of MAGolding's posts.
They are both purple.
AFAIK, neither. Soran's trilithium missiles were the thing destroying stars, and the Nexus just provided some inflight entertainment to those caught inside.
...So basically a larger scale repetition of the thing that somehow prevents alien communications from reaching Sol and makes conventional spacecraft disappear or otherwise hiccup when they try to venture out - until proper warp tech is discovered?
Could be a divine attempt at erecting cushions and pens for us toddlers, until we grow out of our self-endangering ignorance. Or it could be a dumb, purposeless, purely natural phenomenon, a direct subspace consequence of there being a bit of mass in realspace - a series of bubbles around stars and galactic cores that then gives rise to us toddlers as a coincidental byproduct, by blocking any attempts at premature SETI and corresponingly hiding us from predators.
Timo Saloniemi
Or the result of a catastrophic series of novae early in the galaxy's lifespan that created a field of intense electromagnetism and gaseous phenomena in the region in a fashion similar to how planetary ring systems are created by moons being smashed and the debris drawn into orbit by that planet's gravitational field.
Call it a region of "hypernovae" if you wish, where millions or billions of years ago a chain reaction of exploding stars left a wake of intense nebula-like gases and electromagnetic fields. Being Star Trek that's basically all the explanation you need to go with the concept.
Call it a region of "hypernovae" if you wish, where millions or billions of years ago a chain reaction of exploding stars left a wake of intense nebula-like gases and electromagnetic fields. Being Star Trek that's basically all the explanation you need to go with the concept.
Or the result of a catastrophic series of novae early in the galaxy's lifespan that created a field of intense electromagnetism and gaseous phenomena in the region in a fashion similar to how planetary ring systems are created by moons being smashed and the debris drawn into orbit by that planet's gravitational field.
Call it a region of "hypernovae" if you wish, where millions or billions of years ago a chain reaction of exploding stars left a wake of intense nebula-like gases and electromagnetic fields. Being Star Trek that's basically all the explanation you need to go with the concept.
Except that anything formed that long ago would've dissipated by now, since the galaxy is constantly in motion, swirling around its center of mass like a whirlpool. It could work if it were relatively recent, like within the past 50 million years or so, but certainly not billions. Even planetary ring systems are ephemeral; Saturn's will probably be gone within the next 100 million years or so.
True enough.
Still, "Star Trek science."
Still, "Star Trek science."
Q turned it off.
It makes no sense that they go to the center of the galaxy in only a few hours if it takes Voyager seventy years to cover something like four times that distance. Unless Starfleet for some reason made much slower starship in the time of Janeway than they did in the time of Kirk!!! One would think it would be the other way around.
I realized a while back that the only mentions of "the center of the galaxy" in the whole film are three near-consecutive lines in one scene. So if you just ignore maybe a 30-second block of the movie, you can just pretend the Great Barrier and Sha Ka Ree are somewhere closer to Federation space. And while you're at it, you can ignore the 100-plus-story turboshaft.
And the fact that William Shatner directed the movie as well? 
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So do the heroes. "Center of the galaxy? Crazy talk. Can't be done. Heck, you won't even get past the Great Barrier!"
Nothing in the movie necessitates the ship going to the center of the galaxy. Rather, they go to the Great Barrier, Kirk goes "See? We have to stop now." and Sybok says "Trust me, I know what I'm doing." in his best Sledge Hammer voice.
The action then moves into the Great Barrier, within which there's this place Sybok's inner voice calls Sha Ka Ree. A few warp-hours from Nimbus, hidden by scary clouds, is all we know of its location...
Timo Saloniemi
Nothing in the movie necessitates the ship going to the center of the galaxy. Rather, they go to the Great Barrier, Kirk goes "See? We have to stop now." and Sybok says "Trust me, I know what I'm doing." in his best Sledge Hammer voice.
The action then moves into the Great Barrier, within which there's this place Sybok's inner voice calls Sha Ka Ree. A few warp-hours from Nimbus, hidden by scary clouds, is all we know of its location...
Timo Saloniemi
Ugh... I hate this idea of editing TOS. As far as I'm concerned, in TOS/TAS/TOSmovies they went to the the galactic rim twice and the centre of the galaxy twice.
The story had problems, but I thought Shatner's direction was quite good, looking at scenes individually.
Even the actors who didn't always seem to like Shatner said he did a good job.
You can also ignore Spock having a long-lost brother.
That's actually my favorite part of the movie.
Yeah, how dare they add a "di-" to lithium crystals and start saying the Enterprise works for some "Federation" instead of Earth? It's James R. Kirk, dagnabit!
Editing is good. Editing is what makes fiction better as it goes. Purism is unhealthy in any context, but especially in fiction.
