As I see it, there's a time to be assertive and a time to not create ill will. And personally, if I'm not going to give a tip for picking up my pizza, I'm not going to be so obvious about it, especially at a place that I go to often.
When Did "Tips" (Gratuities) Become So High?
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If that is directed at me, I meant other things (maids, hair dressers, etc.)
Also - I tip 20% when I eat out.
I'm not cheap, just fucking confused!
Also - I tip 20% when I eat out.
I'm not cheap, just fucking confused!
The discussion re: tips that comes up on these boards every so often, invariably brings up cultural differences.
To me a tip, is a bonus for above expected service levels. I am already paying for the costs of running the business (inlcuding wages) through the cost of my food.
So when I recieve great service I leave a tip, if I recieve bad service I complain. Oh I've been ignored in places when there were only a few other customers in.
So my tip level is dependant upon level of service. The better the service the better the tip.
Though I am aware in places like the US the culture around tipping is different. That being said when I did visit the states a few years back I did tip. I may not agree with the culture that surrounds it, but as the saying goes "when in Rome."
To me a tip, is a bonus for above expected service levels. I am already paying for the costs of running the business (inlcuding wages) through the cost of my food.
So when I recieve great service I leave a tip, if I recieve bad service I complain. Oh I've been ignored in places when there were only a few other customers in.
So my tip level is dependant upon level of service. The better the service the better the tip.
Though I am aware in places like the US the culture around tipping is different. That being said when I did visit the states a few years back I did tip. I may not agree with the culture that surrounds it, but as the saying goes "when in Rome."
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Soft drinks here are cheap with a high markup. It costs pennies for what they charge you dollars, so free refills don't cut into the profit. When I worked as a server, we got our soft drinks for free, but our food was only 5% off.
I tend to tip a maximum of $4 or if close, whatever the change is from my bill.
I rarely spend more than $20 at a restaurant though (Chinese buffets and Denny's after midnight are my two most often visited restaurants). If I'm with a group we'll all normally give $2 regardless of total price.
I rarely spend more than $20 at a restaurant though (Chinese buffets and Denny's after midnight are my two most often visited restaurants). If I'm with a group we'll all normally give $2 regardless of total price.
No.
^^ Agreed, no.
I'm getting into the habit of asking about the tip included before we order.
I'm not getting myself into that kind of weird-ass Larry David situation. No food is worth that.
If it weren't for my wife I would never eat (sit down) in a restaurant. The experience is virtually never worth the price in my opinion. Too much entitlement.
By the way, I used to work as a server and I know what's right. Trust me - plenty of people shouldn't have tipped me and they did.
I'm getting into the habit of asking about the tip included before we order.
I'm not getting myself into that kind of weird-ass Larry David situation. No food is worth that.
If it weren't for my wife I would never eat (sit down) in a restaurant. The experience is virtually never worth the price in my opinion. Too much entitlement.
By the way, I used to work as a server and I know what's right. Trust me - plenty of people shouldn't have tipped me and they did.
Just got back from a local Mexican restaurant where I ate my Cynco de Mayo dinner. (Yes, it's tomorrow but I won't be able to go out for dinner tomorrow so I did it tonight.) Ate outside on the patio a delicious chicken chimichanga topped with a colon-clogging level of Monterey Jack cheese and served with beans and rice. Also, I threw caution to the wind and got some espinaca dip on top of my free chips and salsa. My total bill was $17.96 including the tax and drink.
Had a good waiter who was attentive and quick as he needed to be (he also suggestive sold me on the espinaca) so I tipped him my base tip of $5.
Had a good waiter who was attentive and quick as he needed to be (he also suggestive sold me on the espinaca) so I tipped him my base tip of $5.
^ That sounds like a great meal.
It really was, the chimichanga also had pico de gallo in it. Yum.
The entitlement is expecting someone else to not only cook your food for you, but serve it to you and your wife at your table.
I enjoy going out to eat, and on top of that I don't have to go to the grocery store, nor know how to cook a variety of meals that I enjoy. Also, the experience of being waited on instead of having to do it yourself is worth the tip to me. You're not just paying for the prepared food, you're paying for the person who brings it to you and makes sure you're enjoying your evening.
For everyone who complains about the tip, why don't you save even more money and just stop going out to eat at restaurants?
If that's your stance, there are restaurants/cafeterias-style/buffets and even places like Buffalo Wild Wings or carry-out where you not only go up to a counter to pick up your food, but some places even have trashcans/bins set up for you to bus your own table. No tip required.
Because it's not about needing to save money.
I find the experience of going out to eat generally well worth the money. I don't do it more often because it is needlessly expensive when I can cook for myself most of the time, and because it's generally going to be more unhealthy. When I go out to eat I like to spend money and order something bad for me.
I've pretty much stopped going to movies because I didn't find that experience worth the money anymore.
What's the convention on tipping when picking up food? There are no servers involved, you're leaving a tip with the cashier. Does he/she also have reduced wages in expectation of a tip? In these cases I make no effort to calculate percentages, I just round out to the nearest dollar or drop a 1 in the tip jar. I would however reward behavior like her remembering that I always ask for chopsticks and putting them in ahead of time without my requesting so.
Counter workers/take-out employees get minimum wage or better so the tipping there is completely up to the good-will of the costumer. In those cases I usually do like you do and drop a buck in the jar or onto the credit card recipt.
Only servers, people who deliver your food to you to/from the kitchen and wait on you to keep your drink full, etc. get the reduced minimum wage.
Only servers, people who deliver your food to you to/from the kitchen and wait on you to keep your drink full, etc. get the reduced minimum wage.
If a delivery driver comes to me, I tip the driver.
If I go to get it, the only time I tip is when I go to my local PF Chang's, because they have a whole detailed procedure they follow to ensure your order is correct and you're satisfied before you leave: they review your order, show you every item, and bag it up very nicely for you and check with you about condiments, chopsticks, etc..
Their service is above and beyond what I have ever seen anywhere else I do take-out, so they do get a tip even though it's not customary.
If I go to get it, the only time I tip is when I go to my local PF Chang's, because they have a whole detailed procedure they follow to ensure your order is correct and you're satisfied before you leave: they review your order, show you every item, and bag it up very nicely for you and check with you about condiments, chopsticks, etc..
Their service is above and beyond what I have ever seen anywhere else I do take-out, so they do get a tip even though it's not customary.
Good job ignoring everything else I said.
Depends where you're picking it up from. If it's a place with a pick-up counter, usually that person is making at least minimum wage or is sharing in the tip pool of the establishment. If, say, you picked up food from my old TGI Fridays, your order would be handled directly by the bartenders, who made less than minimum wage. However, we understand that it's just a to-go order, and we would never expect a tip from it since we didn't actually wait on you. Tips on to-go orders are like bonus money; nice to get, but definitely not expected.
If you have no intentions of tipping, maybe you should tell your server up front that way they won't go out of their way to do anything special for you. I always get compliments about how good of a server I am. The drinks are never empty, I always get whatever is asked for in a timely manner. I check back frequently. For the most part, I get decent tips. I take it as a personal insult when I run my ass off for a table (and it's usually the scumbags who don't tip that'll run you the hardest) and there's nothing on the table when I'm done.
Like I said, I give everybody great service. Even the scumbags/douches. But, I remember who they are. And they're not getting such great service next time. Because I've got better tables I can focus my attention on. Who WILL tip me.
$1 if the service was shitty. This is also the per-beer price for bartenders, if they do a fast, decent job. Otherwise, $1 every other beer.
10% if the service was unsatisfactory, but not awful.
15% for average service
20% for good service.
25% is for barbers that make me look great, bartenders that make strong mixed drinks quickly. Basically, people that have skills beyond the ability to not drop shit. I don't think I've had a waiter (at least not in a long time) that I thought did so good that I thought they earned 25%.
10% if the service was unsatisfactory, but not awful.
15% for average service
20% for good service.
25% is for barbers that make me look great, bartenders that make strong mixed drinks quickly. Basically, people that have skills beyond the ability to not drop shit. I don't think I've had a waiter (at least not in a long time) that I thought did so good that I thought they earned 25%.
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