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What's the worst canon decision in the history of Trek?

If you buy into the idea that there are infinite alternate universes, then, by definition, something like the MU isn’t just possible...it actually must exist. Maybe the reason there are so many frequent crossovers is because of all the amazing similarities.

I don't believe so. The situation can't just happen, it has to evolve to this state. Like a chess position that's impossible to happen through a game from the standard initial position.

For example, in order for someone like you to exist, you'd have to have all your parents meet and reproduce at the exact same time they did. Your combination of genes didn't just appear out of thin air. And that is IMO an impossibility.

Just think about it a second. Another universe where absolutely all your parents would exist and meet and reproduced at the same time while everything else would be different? It would be like a pile of junk getting together spontaneously and making a working computer!!
 
I don't believe so. The situation can't just happen, it has to evolve to this state. Like a chess position that's impossible to happen through a game from the standard initial position.

For example, in order for someone like you to exist, you'd have to have all your parents meet and reproduce at the exact same time they did. Your combination of genes didn't just appear out of thin air. And that is IMO an impossibility.

Just think about it a second. Another universe where absolutely all your parents would exist and meet and reproduced at the same time while everything else would be different? It would be like a pile of junk getting together spontaneously and making a working computer!!

Such is the mysterious nature of the concept of literal infinity.

If you buy that concept, then by definition, the MU as depicted in Trek must exist.
 
Dilithium is a glorified semiconductor. The science surrounding warp is based in reality. Magic time crystals that act like crystal balls tell you where the modern educational system and general scientific literacy of the public lies.
No. Dilithium was made up for TOS, because it was realized that real-world lithium wasn't going to be believable as a substance with the sort of amazing properties needed for the warp drive.

Every Star Trek spinoff inherited dilithium from TOS, and the premise that the TOS writers were imagining dilithium as a glorified semiconductor is nonsense. Take a look at "The Alternative Factor" and "Mudd's Women." Semiconductors aren't mentioned at all.
 
Well it doesn’t work for me and I’m saying so per the point of the thread. Not “in the moment” or otherwise. Obviously Trek isn’t hard sci-fi. And the more you look at it the older you get the more you can see the silliness. But it is a matter of degrees. This fan would like to not have his disbelief strained any more than is necessary. That’s skill. To be appreciated.

It’s not a matter of realism over story. You can have the Pike moment and in a less ridiculous way.
Mileage will vary. Star Trek buys a certain amount of suspension of disbelief automatically. Straining it comes from people behaving strangely for me. Out there type thinking just seems part of the package deal. I certainly don't find it to be the worst canon decision ever.
 
I’m also not much of a fan of time crystals. They’re well within the realm of Trek-diculousness but I still don’t like them. They are magical tomfoolery, although I wouldn’t say they’re anything particularly special in their magical powers when it comes to Trek.

I really hope there’s some more science-based creativity in the storylines of SNW.
Considering one of Trek's favourite characters is based on an alien having a baby with a human, time crystals are not all that bad
 
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Considering one of Trek's favourite character is based on an alien having a baby with a human, time crystals are not all that bad

The thing that I find a bit bothersome is that they sound like black magic... If you touch it then your destiny is sealed.... that sort of thing... It's hard to reconcile with science.
 
The thing that I find a bit bothersome is that they sound like black magic... If you touch it then your destiny is sealed.... that sort of thing... It's hard to reconcile with science.
Pike accepted his 'destiny', Michael did not, so you could say Pike was too fatalistic but he is a tragic character, poor guy could never catch a break in any reality
 
Pike accepted his 'destiny', Michael did not, so you could say Pike was too fatalistic but he is a tragic character, poor guy could never catch a break in any reality

If only they would have conceived blast doors that could manually be closed from either side that Admiral wouldn't have had to sacrifice herself btw... That transparent aluminum is really something, don't you think?

They should seriously consider making a whole ship with whatever material that blast door was made of or at least the outer-hull.

Sorry, but thinking of Pike's fate reminded me of that scene.
 
He gets his break at the end. That's what made that scene extra poignant for me.

We know he ends up okay, but he doesn't. And he came through anyway.

Good stuff.

They should do like in Children of time (or at least the way Yedrin said it would be) and make a quantum duplicate of Pike, one that would end up in the binary chair and the other who would lead a normal life.
 
They should do like in Children of time (or at least the way Yedrin said it would be) and make a quantum duplicate of Pike, one that would end up in the binary chair and the other who would lead a normal life.

I don't see why, personally.

His ultimate ending is a (fairly) happy one. I think it's fine just the way it is.

JMHO, of course.
 
No. Dilithium was made up for TOS, because it was realized that real-world lithium wasn't going to be believable as a substance with the sort of amazing properties needed for the warp drive.

Every Star Trek spinoff inherited dilithium from TOS, and the premise that the TOS writers were imagining dilithium as a glorified semiconductor is nonsense. Take a look at "The Alternative Factor" and "Mudd's Women." Semiconductors aren't mentioned at all.
In Trek since TOS dilithium is used to focus the energy of the matter and anti-matter reaction in the warp core. I’m not sure when that change happened exactly. Was it during TOS’ run, sometime after UESPA disappeared? Or after at least the last two misogynistic episodes of the series in which it backtracked on that whole “equality of the sexes” silliness presented in “The Cage.” :vulcan:

(One in which women weren’t fit for captainhood and another in which McCoy manhandles a woman and suggests that as a single woman of a certain age life is unbearable for her and that she’d be willing to murder the entire crew of the Enterprise for male companionship.)
Mileage will vary. Star Trek buys a certain amount of suspension of disbelief automatically. Straining it comes from people behaving strangely for me. Out there type thinking just seems part of the package deal. I certainly don't find it to be the worst canon decision ever.
Like I said, I weigh recent decisions heavier than past ones. Time crystals knocked me out of the narrative entirely. It signaled that for all the series’ attempts to look more real and include elements incongruous with TOS yet that make perfect sense in the 21st century, it was also going to be heavily influenced by the lofty success of the Marvel superhero franchise enough to throw realism to the wind. Ergo time crystals. Not to mention the Red Angel Iron Man suit.
Considering one of Trek's favourite characters is based on an alien having a baby with a human, time crystals are not all that bad
That bothered me less. I liked how Jadzia was happy when she got the news that she would be able to have child with Worf. If it takes medical intervention, okay. I can’t remember right now but I think there were other instances that humans and aliens had children “naturally,” and that also took me out of the narrative.
 
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