What's in YOUR 'head canon'?
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I don't believe that the Federation has a money-less economy. I think it has a paper-less economy. No paper money, everything is handled electronically. Not too different to where it seems things are headed now.
Here's another thing about why Voyager couldn't get back to the AQ in a reasonable amount of time. And I know someone might point out* that it was established on screen that it wasn't the case, but I must have missed it when I watched it years ago. For years I believed that it was taking Voyager so long to get back because their maximum safe speed was not their fastest speed. And also because they couldn't just go straight through the center of the galaxy but had to go around.
*I posted those 2 ideas before in a post on another thread and someone pointed out that Stadi said in the pilot of Voyager that the ship had a sustainable cruising speed of 9.95. But those 2 ideas were my head canon for many years.
Here's another thing about why Voyager couldn't get back to the AQ in a reasonable amount of time. And I know someone might point out* that it was established on screen that it wasn't the case, but I must have missed it when I watched it years ago. For years I believed that it was taking Voyager so long to get back because their maximum safe speed was not their fastest speed. And also because they couldn't just go straight through the center of the galaxy but had to go around.
*I posted those 2 ideas before in a post on another thread and someone pointed out that Stadi said in the pilot of Voyager that the ship had a sustainable cruising speed of 9.95. But those 2 ideas were my head canon for many years.
Enterprise takes place in an alternate timeline created by the events of First Contact and the Temporal Cold War.
TOS depicts the original, unaltered Trek timeline, before the butterfly effect stemming from the various time travel stories leads to gradual subtle changes. In the TOS universe, although we never heard about him, Jonathan Archer was captain of the NX-01, which was not called Enterprise (hence it not featuring in the depictions of previous Enterprises in TMP's Rec Room and the TNG Obs Lounge). Jonathan Archer's exploratory mission is notable, and the Archer IV mentioned by Riker in "Yesterday's Enterprise" was named after him, but the TCW/Suliban/Xindi events do not happen.
Following the events of First Contact, Zefram Cochrane names the NX-01 after the Enterprise-E. The ENT series depicts a version of Archer's exploits in the resultant timeline, which is then further corrupted by the Temporal Cold War. The Xindi Incident in particular is a huge diversion, with over seven million casualties; to paraphrase McCoy, that's seven million chances of altering the future.
It is this timeline, already significantly different from the TOS one, that Nero visits in 2233, and from which the Kelvin Timeline diverges.
TOS depicts the original, unaltered Trek timeline, before the butterfly effect stemming from the various time travel stories leads to gradual subtle changes. In the TOS universe, although we never heard about him, Jonathan Archer was captain of the NX-01, which was not called Enterprise (hence it not featuring in the depictions of previous Enterprises in TMP's Rec Room and the TNG Obs Lounge). Jonathan Archer's exploratory mission is notable, and the Archer IV mentioned by Riker in "Yesterday's Enterprise" was named after him, but the TCW/Suliban/Xindi events do not happen.
Following the events of First Contact, Zefram Cochrane names the NX-01 after the Enterprise-E. The ENT series depicts a version of Archer's exploits in the resultant timeline, which is then further corrupted by the Temporal Cold War. The Xindi Incident in particular is a huge diversion, with over seven million casualties; to paraphrase McCoy, that's seven million chances of altering the future.
It is this timeline, already significantly different from the TOS one, that Nero visits in 2233, and from which the Kelvin Timeline diverges.
Sorry for the vague wording on my initial comment -- I was forgetting that not everyone has read Vulcan's Glory by D.C. Fontana and would immediately know what I was talking about. Tracy Trek, yes, you're recalling the correct novel. The bit I was referring to, however, was that Spock served on a few other ships and rose through the ranks before he was posted to the Enterprise under Pike. Number One briefs Pike on Spock's service record when he's assigned to the ship. Basically, it went like this:
-Two years in Starfleet Academy in the accelerated Vulcan course & one year in required cadet cruises. Graduates at age 19.
-Serves three years as assistant science officer aboard a space cutter.
-Promoted to Lt. (jg) and assigned as third officer and science officer aboard the Artemis - long-range cruises. Serves two years.
-Assigned to the USS Enterprise as second officer and science officer under Captain Christopher Pike (This puts him there basically just in time for "The Cage").
I find that much more plausible than The Star Trek Chronology's assumption that he started serving on the Enterprise while still a cadet.
Ooooh, I like this idea!
Only the ships that I like from the Starfleet Museum, FASA and almost all of Star Fleet Battles (at least up to the 80s) and Forbin's kitbashes actually exist as part of the Star Fleet. They represent classes, sub-classes and variants. Some are limited to only a handful of ships, but they all exist. Well, not all, only the ones whose designs I like, such as nearly all of Forbin's kitbashes. Franz Joseph is canon and I wish I could fit Star Fleet Battles history into Star Trek. Sadly, I cannot. I grew up thinking Klingon and Romulan space was on opposite side's of the Federation. That doesn't make much sense if they shared technology (ship design and cloaking devices). I like the modern maps better that depict Klingons and Romulans as sharing a border.
The Romulans are more like the Rihannsu from Diane Duane's novels. Well, I wish they were.
The Klingon's are like The Final Reflection. Well, I wish they were.
The stupid Augment's story line that explained the smooth-headed Klingons did not happen. Klingons always had ridges. It was just bad TV reception in the 60s that made them appear smooth-headed.
Kruge was a Romulan and the Klingons do not have cloaking technology. No, wait, that's another wish.
Betazoids were founding members of the Federation along with Humans, Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellerites. Or they joined soon after. They were definitely around in Kirk's day. We just never saw any.
I like the idea of the Trill (well, Betazoids were included in this idea) were part of the First Federation.
The various patches and emblems we saw in TOS were for exploration divisions and not distinct to each ship. What we've come to know as the Starfleet emblem that we originally saw as the Enterprise emblem was always the Starfleet (or, at least UESPA) emblem.
Some days I think the TOS emblems were patches and on other days I believe they were metal pins like we see Khan wear in TWOK. He got it from his beloved wife's uniform. The Starfleet delta is an evolution of the various 20th and 21st space agency emblems. So is the boomerang emblem we see on the Enterprise nil's engineering hull and in ENT.
I dislike the notion that every movie-era ship we see (Enterprise, Reliant) has a TOS design counterpart and they were all redesigned or upgraded, yet the NCC numbers don't lie and we see Reliant's registry on the ship display at Starbase 11 in Court Martial.
Money existed in the 23rd century, but it was entirely electronic. It was called credits, not bitcoins. When Kirk said they had no money in the 23rd century, he meant no tangible currency. In the 1980s we were still using tangible currency to pay for pizza and leave tips. We weren't even as advanced as we are now with debit cards. Only rich people used credit cards and those were only for big purchases, not pizza.
Starfleet = military. Get your tree hugging heads out of the sand and accept reality.
I kinda like the idea of ENT being an alternate reality created by the Enterprise-E in First Contact.
The Abrams movies are entirely an alternate reality from start to finish. Kelvin universe pre-Nero is not the Prime Universe. However, I'd love to see a Daedelus Class ship rendered in the Kelvin style. Why hasn't someone, anyone, done this yet?
The Gorn, Tholians and Kzinti are good but misunderstood.
Some days I think The Kzinti and the TZenkethi are the same, other days I think they are different but related along with the Cait. M'ress was Cait.
TAS is canon. Some of the episodes we saw are a little distorted or used artistic license.
The food slots on TOS were replicators
The Romulans are more like the Rihannsu from Diane Duane's novels. Well, I wish they were.
The Klingon's are like The Final Reflection. Well, I wish they were.
The stupid Augment's story line that explained the smooth-headed Klingons did not happen. Klingons always had ridges. It was just bad TV reception in the 60s that made them appear smooth-headed.
Kruge was a Romulan and the Klingons do not have cloaking technology. No, wait, that's another wish.
Betazoids were founding members of the Federation along with Humans, Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellerites. Or they joined soon after. They were definitely around in Kirk's day. We just never saw any.
I like the idea of the Trill (well, Betazoids were included in this idea) were part of the First Federation.
The various patches and emblems we saw in TOS were for exploration divisions and not distinct to each ship. What we've come to know as the Starfleet emblem that we originally saw as the Enterprise emblem was always the Starfleet (or, at least UESPA) emblem.
Some days I think the TOS emblems were patches and on other days I believe they were metal pins like we see Khan wear in TWOK. He got it from his beloved wife's uniform. The Starfleet delta is an evolution of the various 20th and 21st space agency emblems. So is the boomerang emblem we see on the Enterprise nil's engineering hull and in ENT.
I dislike the notion that every movie-era ship we see (Enterprise, Reliant) has a TOS design counterpart and they were all redesigned or upgraded, yet the NCC numbers don't lie and we see Reliant's registry on the ship display at Starbase 11 in Court Martial.
Money existed in the 23rd century, but it was entirely electronic. It was called credits, not bitcoins. When Kirk said they had no money in the 23rd century, he meant no tangible currency. In the 1980s we were still using tangible currency to pay for pizza and leave tips. We weren't even as advanced as we are now with debit cards. Only rich people used credit cards and those were only for big purchases, not pizza.
Starfleet = military. Get your tree hugging heads out of the sand and accept reality.
I kinda like the idea of ENT being an alternate reality created by the Enterprise-E in First Contact.
The Abrams movies are entirely an alternate reality from start to finish. Kelvin universe pre-Nero is not the Prime Universe. However, I'd love to see a Daedelus Class ship rendered in the Kelvin style. Why hasn't someone, anyone, done this yet?
The Gorn, Tholians and Kzinti are good but misunderstood.
Some days I think The Kzinti and the TZenkethi are the same, other days I think they are different but related along with the Cait. M'ress was Cait.
TAS is canon. Some of the episodes we saw are a little distorted or used artistic license.
The food slots on TOS were replicators
I hope he got out of that casket before they shot it into space or buried him!
I doubt he was ever in the casket in the first place. Flint is thousands of years old by the time we met him - he's had to fake his own death hundreds of times. This kind of thing would be child's play to him.
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I'm pretty sure this bit is canon.
Going to sum this up with a Star Wars quote:
"It's true. All of it."
"It's true. All of it."
I should also have added to mine that Andorians are a four-sexed race, whose complex mating practices are seeing a decline in the population, with extinction inevitable unless a solution can be discovered.
Thanks, that makes me feel very good - but even I'M not sure all of mine fit in continuity!
I have similar thoughts to an earlier poster that ST productions represent slightly different versions of the ST universe. I can't see some of the over-the-top stuff from TOS having happened in the past of the TOS movies; and The Motion Picture feels so different from 2-6. To me it's as if some of these series are in their own self-contained setting, but they can inform us of the other (so a version of Space Seed really does happen in the backstory of TWoK movie). Kirk commands the Excelsior in DC Volume 1, which has it's own version of the movies' events, but he is on Vulcan the whole time between the actual movies TSFS and TVH.
In quite a few versions of Star Trek, the go on some version of the adventure depicted in The Wounded Sky, and the imprint they leave in the other realm they visit eventually gives rise to one of the other versions of Star Trek that we encounter in various media, the comics or novels, and so forth.
Within TOS there's a little bit of overlap, as we're seeing some episodes from slightly different realities (I don't just mean Mirror, Mirror). So some episodes take place with the Enterprise under the authority of the United Earth Space Probe Agency, and other episodes take place within the Starfleet reality.
As there are multiple Earths (like Miri's exact duplicate of Earth) there are also duplicates of other major worlds. Jim Ford's Klingons from The Final Reflection comes from one of them, with their different culture and life cycle. Both had very different versions of Kahless, too.
The inhabitants of the Gangster planet are such superb cultural chameleons, they make the best xeno-social scientists, linguists, and First Contact specialists after they join the Federation. They are also highly gifted at undercover missions within societies that are being observed prior to first contact.
The Machine Planet, V'Ger, and the Borg might not necessarily be connected. Or they might be, depending on what day it is.
In quite a few versions of Star Trek, the go on some version of the adventure depicted in The Wounded Sky, and the imprint they leave in the other realm they visit eventually gives rise to one of the other versions of Star Trek that we encounter in various media, the comics or novels, and so forth.
Within TOS there's a little bit of overlap, as we're seeing some episodes from slightly different realities (I don't just mean Mirror, Mirror). So some episodes take place with the Enterprise under the authority of the United Earth Space Probe Agency, and other episodes take place within the Starfleet reality.
As there are multiple Earths (like Miri's exact duplicate of Earth) there are also duplicates of other major worlds. Jim Ford's Klingons from The Final Reflection comes from one of them, with their different culture and life cycle. Both had very different versions of Kahless, too.
The inhabitants of the Gangster planet are such superb cultural chameleons, they make the best xeno-social scientists, linguists, and First Contact specialists after they join the Federation. They are also highly gifted at undercover missions within societies that are being observed prior to first contact.
The Machine Planet, V'Ger, and the Borg might not necessarily be connected. Or they might be, depending on what day it is.
My head canon?
Spock is a huge Beastie Boy fan, and there is a healthy Polly Pocket collector's market on Kronos.
Spock is a huge Beastie Boy fan, and there is a healthy Polly Pocket collector's market on Kronos.
Exeter, Farragut and Aurora fan films are canon.
Star Trek Continues and New Voyages/Phase 2 fill out seasons 4 and 5 (along with TAS) for the 5 year mission. Except for the most recent Phase 2 with Carol Marcus. That doesn't fit. David was conceived before the 5 year mission began.
Star Trek Continues and New Voyages/Phase 2 fill out seasons 4 and 5 (along with TAS) for the 5 year mission. Except for the most recent Phase 2 with Carol Marcus. That doesn't fit. David was conceived before the 5 year mission began.
Everything? What about popular episodes like Terra Prime? Similutude?
I also find the argument that there are issues when events don't get mentioned in the future to be silly. Given how little the average person knows about history, I don't know why people expect fictional characters to name drop historical figures. How many people were talking about Hamilton before the musical came out? Even when you're a history buff, it doesn't make for good small talk.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...ctually-know-less-you-think-180955431/?no-ist
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In my head canon Section 31 deleted all records of the Romulan's appearance and heritage after the Romulan - Earth War, which is why Kirk and Co. knew nothing about them.
^ The same with the Borg and the Ferengi.
I don't worry about "canon" all that much. I take it all as various stories under the same Star Trek umbrella.
I'm good as long as they get the broad strokes right.
Yep. Section 31 is my magic discrepancy eraser.
Exactly. There's too much of it over too much time for there not to be differences, inconsistencies, anachronisms, retcons and plain old stuff that doesn't make any sense.
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