What's in YOUR 'head canon'?

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  1. Jedi Marso

    Jedi Marso Commodore Commodore

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    The new movie and the talk about the new show have spawned countless debates about the various timelines and events. Since returning to the boards I've noticed people have started using the term 'head canon', which is an acknowledgement that the Trek canon as its understood is so hopelessly contradictory and convoluted that it's become, literally, a matter of subjectivity to each fan.

    So, in the spirit of fun, what's in YOUR 'head canon?' You can post anything from a few significant things to an entire timeline from the Big Bang until the end of Nemesis or the novel-verse. What counts for you and what doesn't? This isn't meant to be an ARGUMENT thread- but a fun thread where members can list what they see as their personal 'prime' timeline and why.

    Have fun with it!

    (I'll post mine when I figure it out!)
     
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  2. JonnyQuest037

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    Here are some significant bits for me:

    -Kirk commanded a smaller ship with the rank of Commander before he was given the Enterprise.
    -Spock's service record before the Enterprise reflects what D.C. Fontana wrote in Vulcan's Glory.
    -Spock unconsciously suppressed his Pon Farr urges before the events of "Amok Time." This is why he was acting more emotional in "The Cage."
    -Gary Mitchell served as Kirk's first officer before his death in WNMHGB.
    -McCoy's affair with Nancy Crater was an extramarital one, which led to the end of McCoy's marriage.
     
  3. Turd Ferguson

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    I don't dismiss any of TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY or ENT (or any movies, for that matter) but there are other movies/shows I like to think are a part of the Star Trek universe. For example, I consider Event Horizon to be an early attempt at warp drive gone really awry. It fits into the Star Trek timeline, taking place in 2047, so it's before Zefram Cochrane. Plus, I think it's cool to imagine Laurence Fishburne, Jason Isaacs, Sean Pertwee and Sam Neill as being a part of the Star Trek universe :)
     
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  4. Jedi Marso

    Jedi Marso Commodore Commodore

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    Yikes! I'm glad the Trek crews never encountered the 'hell' the Event Horizon crew did, although the Sphere builders came kind of close in their own way. (Zombie Vulcan ship in the Expanse!)
     
  5. Jedi Marso

    Jedi Marso Commodore Commodore

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    I'm not familiar with Vulcan's Glory. What is some of the stuff you are referring to?

    Interesting. I kind of like that idea.
     
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  6. Bry_Sinclair

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    The so-called "prime" universe in the NuTrek films is an alternate universe from which the altered timeline spawned. This universe is also where Enterprise is also set. So in the real prime universe, Jonathan Archer never made the cut for Starfleet and became a beagle breeder, the NX-class was shelved in favour of the Daedalus-Class, first contact with the Ferengi and Borg didn't occur for centuries, and humanity didn't enter a period of xenophobia. It also means that Spock is alive and well on (an undestroyed) Romulus working to reunify the Romulans and Vulcans, whilst there is no such substance ridiculously called "red matter".
     
  7. drt

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    My head canon is that each production takes place is a different universe, but the universes are closely related, so that any needed history points from TOS say brought up in dialog in TNG still work, but perhaps the details weren't 100% identical.

    This head canon comes about because most of the productions are relatively good at internal continuity, but tend to ignore inconvenient details to tell their particular story. For instance, both TMP* and the Meyerverse require just as much hand-waving to fit into the same continuity as a pre-Narada Kelvin does, therefore, it makes just as much sense to split them into different universes as well.

    * for the TMPverse I like Roddenberry's explanation that what we saw in TOS was a dramatized retelling of the crew's previous adventures

    So it works like this for my head canon universes:
    1. TOS/TAS
    2. TMP
    3. ST2-6 (Meyerverse)
    4. Bermanverse
    5. Abramsverse
    6. Fullerverse?
     
  8. Push The Button

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    Scotty lost a finger during a (different) bar fight with a Klingon, and as a badge of honor, opted to not have it reattached, regrown, or replaced with a prosthetic finger.

    The ring that McCoy wears belongs to
    his daughter Joanna.

    Jim West of Wild Wild West fame is an ancestor of Jim Kirk.

    There was a Lt. Stiles that served under Captain Archer on NX-01 Enterprise. A few years later, he would fight in the Earth-Romulan war, along with several other members of the Stiles family. Almost one hundred years later, a descendant of his would serve as a navigator aboard Kirk's Enterprise.

    There were Miranda class ships in Starfleet during the TOS era that shared most of the familiar design elements of the pre-refit Starship/Constitution class, we just never saw any onscreen.
     
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  9. Albertese

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    I, too, like to make those same assumptions about Kirk's first command, Mitchell being the XO and Nancy Crater being an extra-marital affair. (And thought so for years). I'm not familiar with Vulcan's Glory so I'm not sure about that. In fact, most of the novels I tend to exclude. With some exceptions: Federation, which I think has a much more interesting account of the situation surrounding Cochrane's first flight than what we got in FC; and the John Ford Klingon novels, which presented a very interesting vision of them. I guess my "headcanon" is a pretty alternate version of Trek, at this point.

    I admit most of TOS and TAS, the TOS movies, TNG, and DS9 as mostly canon. I found all the TNG movies so disappointing that I basically disregard them. I fill in the rest of the history from 1966 to 2364 with material cherry-picked from the novel Federation, Masao's Starfleet Museum website, the old Spaceflight Chronology, the Franz Joseph Star Fleet Technical Manual and the FASA Star Trek RPG from the 80's.

    I accept Enterprise and the recent films as all being spurious timelines and alternate realities, but they have their own validity I suppose. Also, I would argue that there are probably twenty or thirty really watchable episodes of Voyager[/i[] that I would admit to my own headcanon, but by far the majority of the show was pretty yawn-inducing so I disregard most of it.

    --Alex
     
  10. Tosk

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    For me, the Kelvin Timeline actually diverged in 2063. Picard and crew created a different timeline, (which they thankfully avoided staying in when traveling forward) one where Zefram's stories about future people inspired Archer's ship to be named Enterprise and this was the timeline that Ambassador Spock arrived in. From his perspective it's the past of his own timeline, but there are distinct changes. (Changes that he kept to himself once he did notice them.)

    It doesn't make total sense, but whatever. :)
     
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  11. JoeZhang

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    The adventures of James T Kirk are the alternative universe adventures of James R Kirk.
     
  12. TheSubCommander

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    For me, LT Stiles of Balance of Terror, and Captain Styles of Star Trek III are actually the same guy, and the correct spelling is Stiles.

    For me, he TOS configuration that resembles the Miranda class is actually the Avenger class, which was the original name of the Miranda class.

    The Abramsverse actually diverged at some point prior to the Narada incursion, due to the Temporal Cold War. The elderly Spock we seen in Star Trek 2009, is actually from a different future than the Prime universe. Mainly because I don't like the idea that Romulus blew up. In my version, Spock is still on Romulus, still leading a unification movement.

    Kirk still lives in the Nexus.

    After the events of Nemesis, Lore's body was reassembled, and his mind was wiped. Data's personality was uploaded to Lore's body, to preserve B4's personality. Data would never have allowed his personality to over write B4's, but since Lore was techically "dead", he could do that with Lore's body.
     
  13. Serin117

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    Everything including ENT happened in the prime universe - the KelvinVerse has always been a separate timeline because dear gods its just easier to write for that way and I completely understand that choice.
    Destiny trilogy and Vanguard is canon along with everything after?

    That be it.
     
  14. Tracy Trek

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    Wasn't Vulcan's Glory the one where Spock has a relationship with a young Vulcan widow who is also a science officer on Pike's Enterprise?
     
  15. Jedi Marso

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    Your head canon and mine share many of the same elements.
     
  16. Terok Nor

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    TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, Voyager, all the movies and the new show unless it's a sucky prequel like Enterprise. Novels, comics and computer games are not in my head canon so it's basically everything that ever appeared in the tv shows and movies even the stuff that contradicts other stuff. Except Enterprise.
     
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  17. TheGoodStuff

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    Mine is simple.

    ENT, TOS, TNG, DS9 & VOY are all canon. The TOS & TNG movies are canon.

    JJ's stuff isn't. It is a new timeline with no real connection to the others: it diverged and isn't worth paying heed to.

    That's my personal cannon. It allows me to stay warm and snug in a comfy blanket of ENT/TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY while JJ lens-flares/destroys Vulcan/violences/bikini's his way around in a sandbox that doesn't count.

    Warm. And. Snug.
     
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  18. Tracy Trek

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    My head canon (or personal continuity) is that the events depicted in the animated Yesteryear actually represent something that happened in Spock's childhood.

    I believe that Sybok's mother was a Vulcan priestess, not a princess. I know Nimoy said princess on screen, but maybe it was just a mistake that nobody caught before the film was released. If I'm not mistaken the novelization backs this up.

    And in several instances, if something in one of the novels makes more sense or explains something in the series that makes no sense, that's my personal continuity.
     
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  19. TheSubCommander

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    I consider all the movies, TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT canon.

    TAS, I consider only certain aspects and certain episodes canon, and cherry pick what I like (IE Robert April is canon. Having personal environmental shields, not canon).

    Novels, really depends on what it is. If it directly contradicts anything on film or TV, then no. If it is backstory, or a one off story that doesn't contradict anything on screen, then I think it depends on if I like that particular element or not.

    Comics & video games I don't consider canon.
     
  20. Dilandu

    Dilandu Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    - The Federation have not just Starfleet, but real military fleet - which, of course, is under more strict control and used only with government's resolution

    - The Prime Directive fully applied only to pre-warp civilizations. And the Prime Directive does NOT assume the destruction of civilization as a "natural path of things, which must not be contradicted"

    - Triple-nacelle ships are possible, but only if only two nacelles are used at the same time. The third is the spare (make sense for dreadnoughts - they are too valuable to risk being lost just because on nacelle was hit)
     
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