What You Leave Behind
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I'm in the same boat. I don't need a revival, remaster, revisiting, retooling or anything else. DS9 stands apart as a wonderfully complete story with a wrap up and everything. If I want it back I just...watch it again.
Two amazing and indeed my favorite Trek novels are DS9 novels, and both Cardassian-centric. A Stitch in Time is Garak's life story written by the actor himself, and The Never Ending Sacrifice is basically DS9 told from the perspective of Rugal (the orphan Sisko sent back to Cardassia in season 2) on Cardassia Prime. It's a sweeping epic of a novel, reminded me of Dr. Zhivago or something. A deeply moving and wonderful book. ...if you're in the mood for more DS9 and love the world-building aspect of sci-fi.
I have A STITCH IN TIME, and it was wonderful.
Well said! For the life of me I cannot understand why screenwriters cannot see that there are great action movies that did not need to end in a wrestling match to be great films!That's awesome! I often feel in the minority about this, so it's great to find someone else who feels this way. I mean, the Baker serials are absolutely brilliant, obviously - but Patrick Troughton is just beyond compare. I'll endure all those clunky reconstructions of the lost serials just to enjoy him in the role. I know, I know, 'off topic', but still...
We'll just go back on topic by letting The Doctor play his recorder...
Alas, it was a cash cow, so movies were inevitable. The idea is making good movies, like First Contact.
And that actually makes more sense. Maybe the fact that DS9 wasn't a cash cow like TNG, or a flagship series with TPTB sticking their incompetent noses in things like VOY, it was able to really be something special.
Maybe we have the idea that movies would be made to thank for the great final episode that 'All Good Things...' is.
Once again, I'm being weird here. It's just nicer to think after the final episode that it's still the same series it was when going through it, the next time will be just as good if not better.
Indeed. People changed and keep growing. The static nature of some parts of other shows gets in the way of personal enjoyment.
Despite the fact that I do not care for TNG films, it at least attempted small lip service to changes, and then immediately moved back to the status quo. It's too static for my liking.
I watched a couple of episodes of ST:NG a couple of months ago during my Picard Season 2 binge. The show doesn't hold up as well against modern TV shows, where characters grow and change over time. And the lack of conflict on ST:NG makes it really challenging to watch at times. DS9 feels more like modern TV shows with a storyline. However, I'm not a fan of the excessive filler. The show would probably have worked best as a 13-15 episode show.
There is conflict but that's with other species and so on, having a well functioning crew on a ship with command structure makes sense.
I don't get it, would TNG be a better series for some if there was soap operaish arguments between main characters?
Conflict does not automatically "Soap operaish argument." TNG even did it a couple of times and it worked well. Data reprimanding Worf and instructing on the role of the first officer, Picard irritated at Riker for the saucer separation. Conflict means that not everyone gets along perfectly well or just nods in uniform agreement, or defers automatically to authority.
Even within a well functioning crew you don't think there would be a difference of opinion? No conflict ever?
Enterprise-D had a well working crew but like you mentioned, there were few different opinions. =)
Sometimes but rarely. Which is why it stands out as very sterile. They just follow along with each other and call it good for the most part. There's no expressing frustration, no disappointment or dissent. "You were the captain, I was the ensign; I was just following orders."
Isn't there enough of those in our everyday life. =) Let's focus on space adventures.
It comes down to verisimilitude. It is less believable to me that things are in perfect lock step. Mileage will vary because I have no doubt that people dissatisfy with daily interactions will prefer that. I just don't. It lacks a level of credulity to me to really sell it.
Agree. It's more interesting and believable when crewman who come from very different backgrounds would have very different opinions on how things should be done. And some personalities would naturally click and for some there would naturally be friction.
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