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What would you like to have seen...
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Yeah, that was the definite turning point for me as well, when it really began to feel like a true precursor to TOS. It would've been cool if ENT had used a few of the TMP races in a few eps as well.
Though it's not exactly what you're suggesting, thanks to the magic of reused TNG sets Kirk's quarters in VI actually have a food replicator in them (complete with cutlery on it as dressing).
I didn't mind Gaila at all, whilst it's nice to have aliens that aren't just humans in make up equally not all members of a species should be the same, and to get in Star Fleet at all she'd have to have a bit of a different mind set from those seen previously.
Plus, personally I've never been keen on the Orions portrayal previously (in non-Enterprise stuff as I've not seen their showing in that) anyway, the sex crazed space babe who'll do whatever you want and like it isn't even a very 60's idea, it's a very Roddenberry idea. Giving a member of the species the chance to be more than a super slapper (even if she clearly has a healthy libido like Kirk himself does) is something I liked.
And my deeply, shallow side found her hot.
Or:
Green Orion animal women: the sex crazed space babes who'll make you think they're doing whatever you want, but their pheromones make you do what they want - and you like it.
Lt. Kevin Riley in a cameo.
Well there is clearly an Andorian in the background in Star Trek IV, http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tvhhd/tvhhd0070.jpg. Not what you're looking for though, I know.
I was just web surfing, actually looking for something else, when I stumbled across bubble gum cards for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. In them, guess what? An Andorian female!
http://www.bubblegum-cards.com/Star-Trek-1979/imagepages/image33.html
http://www.bubblegum-cards.com/Star-Trek-1979/index.html
The picture also shows up on the Memory Alpha page, http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Andorian.
Anybody know what this is? I never noticed her in the film.
Yes, that would have been good. I did like that Kyle showed up on the Reliant in TWOK. It might have been neat to see Leslie, Lt. Palmer, or Dr. M'Benga as well.
You're telling grandma to suck eggs here. There are two Andorians in ST IV.
UFP Councillor by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
Igrilan Kor by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
Again, I know. I run a website called "The Andor Files":
http://andorfiles.blogspot.com/2009/10/mov-rogues-gallery.html
There are one male and two female Andorian ambassadors in the San Francisco scenes. They are easy to spot wandering in the crowd scenes. One woman splinters off and goes off separately.
Three Andorian Ambassadors by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
And there are two Andorian crewmembers on the Enterprise...
Shantherin th'Clane by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
Crewman by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
The closeup pic of the younger woman is a makeup test; ditto one of a male (below) with his beard painted blue:
Male makeup test - close-up by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
Female make-up test by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
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In the lead-up to ST VI, a publicist attended a big convention and invited the fans to suggest an actor to return for a cameo, playing the role of Excelsior Communications Officer. Grace Lee Whitney (as Rand) narrowly beat Bruce Hyde (as Riley). Ironically, Grace then lost some of her lines to Christian Slater when Mary Jo Slater cast her son in the movie.
There are two andorians visible in the Rec Deck scene but I'm not 100% sure that the grey-uniformed andorian in the promo shot is the second guy, so there might be three andorians overall. Why no andorian women in the crew though? They missed a trick there.
I voted for Rand but I had no idea that it was a genuine survey at the time - kudos. I think she also lost some more of her lines to Uhura too when they decided that the Enterprise was going to be the ship that saved the day instead of Excelsior - which was a bit odd since we were told that Exclesior was a mission to map gaseous anomalies and yet suddenly the Enterprise has equipment for the same purpose. That's not to say that the ship wouldn't carry that equipment as standard - it would have just sounded more logical coming from Excelsior.
I voted for Rand but I had no idea that it was a genuine survey at the time - kudos. I think she also lost some more of her lines to Uhura too when they decided that the Enterprise was going to be the ship that saved the day instead of Excelsior - which was a bit odd since we were told that Exclesior was a mission to map gaseous anomalies and yet suddenly the Enterprise has equipment for the same purpose. That's not to say that the ship wouldn't carry that equipment as standard - it would have just sounded more logical coming from Excelsior.
No, the Andorian makeup appliances were found and auctioned together by "It's a Wrap!" There were five appliances in all. So two crewmembers.
TMP Enterprise crew by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
Whole crew, TMP by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
The two female wigs were extremely expensive, but too elaborate to use for crew women.
Ah cool - I thought there was a passing resemblance but the engineer wsa too far back in the crowd to be sure, even in the high-def pics on Trekcore.
If the wigs were that expensive you would have thought they would have wanted to get their money's worth! Mind you, the male style wigs sould have looked just as good on a women and the giant bun wig is no sillier than Rand's beehive. Just don't stand anybody short behind her - the balcony would have done. It's a shame that all the close-ups of the crewmen on the balcony ended up on the cutting room floor - it looks like we had a saurian, arcturian, and rhaandarite up there (plus Bjo Trimble I think).
If the wigs were that expensive you would have thought they would have wanted to get their money's worth! Mind you, the male style wigs sould have looked just as good on a women and the giant bun wig is no sillier than Rand's beehive. Just don't stand anybody short behind her - the balcony would have done. It's a shame that all the close-ups of the crewmen on the balcony ended up on the cutting room floor - it looks like we had a saurian, arcturian, and rhaandarite up there (plus Bjo Trimble I think).
I wasn't trying to tell you about things you already knew about, thank you very much. I don't understand why you'd think that I was, especially since I acknowledged that I understood you were looking for an actual character.
You won't see Bjo Trimble onscreen; she ended up behind several hulking aliens at the back. The woman in beige is Millicent Wise, wife of the director. Bjo wore white (specially made because she's so tiny).
TMP fan extras with Grace by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
My (almost complete) guide:
http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/2007/08/faces-in-crowd-ive-wanted-to-do-this.html
Robert Wise wouldn't let Rand have a bun in TMP (nor glamour makeup). Her hair was rolled into a tight twist. The Andorian female wigs were very elaborate and came with gemstones in the front. These wouldn't have passed as utlilitarian hairstyles (although the native Americans were permitted plaits and feathers).
No sense of humour? I've studied every inch of frame featuring Andorians in ST, and talk about them here often. My avatar is an Andorian. Me, as an Andorian. I run an exhaustive website about Andorian appearances in ST that has been online since 1997. The OP asked what would we like to see in a Star Trek movie. I said a walking, talking Andorian in a crucial role. Someone offered me Shras. That was a TV episode not a movie. You offered me one Andorian extra, seen only fleetingly in ST IV. I corrected you that there were, in fact, two.
So, seemingly, you not only don't know me very well but it seemed you were trying to tell me about things that many other posters already knew that I knew about.
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I've tried to work in an Andorian security officer into my Youtube stories (and included a cameo for Therin). I think an Andorian character would be really cool but I'd love to see any of the TOS and TMP aliens. I have a soft spot for Zaranites too.
I didn't offer you anything, since I acknowledged that that example didn't fit the criteria you were seeking. You didn't actually correct me either, because in the first place I recall seeing the other extra too, way back on first viewing of the film, but it was too trivial a point to locate a picture of that one too and include it in the post, and in the second place I never claimed I listed them all anyway.
You could have said, "true there was the extra you pointed and, and there was also this other one, and there were all of these other extras, and here's my website." Instead, you make it sound like I've stepped out of line.
Do I have a sense of humor? I think so, but not when I'm the butt of someone else's joke.
Sigh. Which is why I said telling me about canonical Andorians was like teaching grandma to suck eggs.
That's only a partial quote of what I said.
