Some people are so sensitive.
What would be a deal breaker for you in Discovery?
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Good characters and good stories are dependent on each other. Whats interesting about a character is how they react to the situation that they face. Example: in "Best of Both Worlds" we learn that Riker is capable of making the big decisions when he is forced to fire on the borg ship even with his Captain on board.
I agree that those are important elements in Trek's rewatch factor and I don't think every scene has to advance the plot (example: Data criticizing Picard's painting in the teaser for "A Matter of Perspective").
This kind of reminds me of what Ron Moore once said in a dvd commentary for one of the "Battlestar Galatica" about how he would sometimes put character stuff into a episode over things that were there to move the plot along. It could even be small things like someone brushing their teeth or maybe that scene were after they find the original earth is destroyed you see Adama walking the corridor and everyone in the halls and you can see discipline on the ship has broken down and he still bothers to pick up a piece of trash on the ground.
I want "Discovery" to be filled with these small little , everyday moments that make a tv universe feel more like the real world. Every scene doesn't have to be something to move the plot or be two characters talking about their emotions. It's the little details that can really make a show feel special.
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What I really don't want to see on Discovery are people ragequitting and leaving the ship just because another crew member had a political opinion.
What if its a Klingon?
A Klingon with any self-respect would head-butt the offending crewman and call it settled.
Or stab them. Eat them whole. Something.
When I was a moderator, we had to walk ten miles in the snow to express our political opinions. I was once beaten with a Romulan disrupter by Da Boss.
As to manufacturing drama out of nothing, it seems to be the way of life in America these days, I'm sad to say. The internet is a thing of beauty and a successful tool to lower IQs at the same time.
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I'm not sure I can agree. I felt it was their best episode, because it was actually about something. I don't think more subtlety would have helped the story.I'm not whom you asked, but I'd say the Star Trek Continues episode "Lolani" would be an example of how Discovery should *not* handle a moral or ethical message - there's an extended portion of the namesake's dialog where they really should have just given her a little pulpit and let her beat people with it.
Nah, Marine Le Pen didn't “almost win”. Her opponent Macron secured double the votes she received, which might be an exceptional result for her right-wing party, but comes nowhere near what anyone would call a win.
I tend to see it the same way. It's really frustrating to see how right-wing thinking has edged its way back into the political landscape.
What strikes me as odd in these kind of discussions on this board, is how persecuted and entitled conservative people always seem to feel; thinking they are in their moral right to spread radical right-wing ideas.
I might be oversimplifying things, but where I come from (Germany), people are more or less categorized as either “links”, “rechts” or “mitte”, politically speaking. And in puplic forums, being “rechts” is unequivocally seen as being in the wrong (while “mitte” seems to be comparable to what I would call “konservativ”; i.e. wanting the status quo, striving for everything to stay the same). On German internet forums it's not allowed to propagate a right-wing mindset; it will get you banned. I'm sure it has a lot to do with our history, but whatever the reason, being right-wing means your thinking is outdated and obsolete. Our concept of “free speech” ends the moment you're calling for violence or endorsing hating other people because of their ethnicity, religion, sexuality or gender. It's laid down in our criminal code as “Volksverhetzung” and punishable by law.
I'm not necessarily saying things are better in Germany, but at least in public forums right-wing people can't expect to be in their right to spout hateful nonsense. Hate shouldn't be an opinion free to express. I can't overstate how weird it is for me to see these people here, whining because they think their way of thinking is an acceptable “opinion”.
So, not sorry, but rant is over.
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Nah, I can handle it.
I know that these people exist. I just wish they wouldn't.Yes, that's true. But tolerating blind hate and violence is something I will never be able to tolerate.
At one point they had to shut down Yahoo comments temporarily because the hate/mean comments were so extreme. And I heard it was poorly moderated to begin with, so it was filled with them.
I'm in favor of answering them back, so they can know they won't be tolerated. They seem to have a hard time understanding human decency and they won't stop on their own. So if they get banned, charged with something, arrested, who cares---a lot of them deserve it to be honest.
I'm in favor of answering them back, so they can know they won't be tolerated. They seem to have a hard time understanding human decency and they won't stop on their own. So if they get banned, charged with something, arrested, who cares---a lot of them deserve it to be honest.
I agree in essence, and I don't think I'd have suggested more subtlety, so much as that the long-winded speech she gave in her recording could have been made more efficient at conveying the message. And it also occurred to me that perhaps the vocabulary and other aspects of the way she conveyed the message could have been kept just as heartfelt while brought down a few grade levels, too - both for the benefit of a wider audience, and also for realism in the notion that *she was a slave*.
The female captain episode, on the other hand, was just absurd - BUT, I do understand what others have been saying about the difficulty of trying to make an episode seem like it would have fit in the late 60's but also work 100% for a modern audience. I'd choose the latter over the former if it was me, but it's their show and I get that they're going for as much authenticity as they can manage.
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