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What will the real 22nd Century look like?

Yes, I follow the Space technology closely. The reading thing is quite different, I actually have read more in my life than you have or I am very close. I wasn't thinking of a small device that creates artificial gravity, I know they haven't created it yet.
But do you know they are not researching it either?
I also knew that those ideas you wrote about were a focus of NASA.
The only thing I hadn't known about was the ill affects of zero gravity until 3 years ago. Around the time my space interests spiked. I had already been watching things like star trek and Stargate at the time (you probably wonder why I wrote that, I am just saying that star trek didn't peak my space interest at first, just intensified it later on.)

Why did you spend so many countless posts claiming that NASA was doing something it wasn't?

Also, I really do get the impression that english is your second language. The way you structure your sentences and the grammar used in them is just - off. For exxample, the first sentence in the post above: Yes, I follow the Space technology closely. "The" is not needed before "space technology" and sounds out of place.

Now I speak english and english only. Now thats not to say that I wont learn any in the future. Now you do realize that if we were to get into a verbal debate I would in fact impress most people. My verbal skills are different from my typing yes, but I have said that the brains works faster than the hand in my case. I am thinking of the next sentence before I finish the first. I have gotten all hundreds in my english classes.

Second I don't stick to my original thing of NASA is studying anti-gravity. However, I am going to stick with NASA is studying Artificial gravity.
Definition of Artificial Gravity: A simulated gravity established within a space vehicle by rotation or acceleration.
 
:lol:
Also, I really do get the impression that english is your second language. The way you structure your sentences and the grammar used in them is just - off. For exxample, the first sentence in the post above: Yes, I follow the Space technology closely. "The" is not needed before "space technology" and sounds out of place.
Although to be fair putting two Xs in the word 'example' is pretty off as well...

:lol: yes your rright.
 
Also, I really do get the impression that english is your second language. The way you structure your sentences and the grammar used in them is just - off. For exxample, the first sentence in the post above: Yes, I follow the Space technology closely. "The" is not needed before "space technology" and sounds out of place.
Although to be fair putting two Xs in the word 'example' is pretty off as well...
Or a simple typo. Where on the other hand if you look at most of KJbushway's posts in this thread you get the distinct impression that something is off.
 
Second I don't stick to my original thing of NASA is studying anti-gravity. However, I am going to stick with NASA is studying Artificial gravity.
Definition of Artificial Gravity: A simulated gravity established within a space vehicle by rotation or acceleration.

Nope, sorry, re-read the thread. That has been my argument. You have been arguing that NASA is trying to create true artificial gravity.
From Post 48 in this thread by you:
2. While NASA says it plans to build a small non-permanent base on the moon by 2020. but they still haven't been able to find a true artificial gravity device, still haven't been able to build any kind of shelter that can protect astronauts from solar radiation.
And post 50 by you:

2. Do to the fact that astronauts traveling through space or in orbit experience zero-gravity, which cause bone loss, muscle loss, and even possible cancer, traveling to mars from earth and back, chances are they will get some ill affects due to the long exposure to zero-gravity. So yes NASA is trying to develop a artificial-gravity device for space travel.
And Post 55 where you definitively discount that you are talking about spinning or acceleration:
OK I messed up with the anti-gravity, i realized that. I did mean Artificial gravity. And yes, i know you have had a career in technology, but trust me NASA is trying to work on a method of Artificial gravity, yes they know about spinning the ship, but they still are trying to come up with a different means of artificial gravity. Constant acceleration is a good idea, but NASA nor any other space agency have not began to finds a true means of that, that wont take someone bringing tons a fuel along. Yes you can use Ion engine, Nuclear propulsion. The technology is there, but still it requires adding the extra weight of fuel. NASA has never liked the term extra weight.

Sorry about the double post.
 
22nd Century?

The new Dark Ages.

But first, the 21st century will be one of mounting crisis.

*We're in the middle of biggest extinction event since that big rock killed the dinosaurs. Species are dropping off at a terrifying rate.

*World population is projected to peak at 9 billion, but the sustainable carrying capacity of the planet is closer to 3 billion (i.e., billions will die when we meet the hard end of the curve of limits to growth).

*Decreases in potable water may be even more alarming than...

*...the prospect that the age of cheap energy you can suck out of the ground is nearing its end. Countries are already muscling in for what is left. When our pain at the pump becomes too great our qualms about off-shore drilling and tar sands will disappear too; the attendant environmental consequences will, of course, follow.

*The end of oil means that nuclear power will increasingly become attractive. More nuke plants, mathematically means a higher probability of catastrophic nuclear accidents. But even if we were so naive to think that something like Chernobyl will never happen again, there is still that pesky problem with what to do with the waste (which has to be contained safely for periods that can be marked in geological time).

*Forget the near-consensus among scientists that global warming is happening, many scientists are now quietly projecting that it is really too late to do anything to significantly ameliorate the problem.

*The nuclear family is growing everyday. Welcome Iran! Welcome North Korea! These weapons, as technology grows, and is gradually and ineluctably disseminated, will eventually fall into the hands of the desperate S.O.B who is willing to use them.

On the upside, I think we will get several more cool Apple "I" products before the collective matter converges on the fan.
 
Second I don't stick to my original thing of NASA is studying anti-gravity. However, I am going to stick with NASA is studying Artificial gravity.
Definition of Artificial Gravity: A simulated gravity established within a space vehicle by rotation or acceleration.

Nope, sorry, re-read the thread. That has been my argument. You have been arguing that NASA is trying to create true artificial gravity.
From Post 48 in this thread by you:
2. While NASA says it plans to build a small non-permanent base on the moon by 2020. but they still haven't been able to find a true artificial gravity device, still haven't been able to build any kind of shelter that can protect astronauts from solar radiation.
And post 50 by you:

2. Do to the fact that astronauts traveling through space or in orbit experience zero-gravity, which cause bone loss, muscle loss, and even possible cancer, traveling to mars from earth and back, chances are they will get some ill affects due to the long exposure to zero-gravity. So yes NASA is trying to develop a artificial-gravity device for space travel.
And Post 55 where you definitively discount that you are talking about spinning or acceleration:
OK I messed up with the anti-gravity, i realized that. I did mean Artificial gravity. And yes, i know you have had a career in technology, but trust me NASA is trying to work on a method of Artificial gravity, yes they know about spinning the ship, but they still are trying to come up with a different means of artificial gravity. Constant acceleration is a good idea, but NASA nor any other space agency have not began to finds a true means of that, that wont take someone bringing tons a fuel along. Yes you can use Ion engine, Nuclear propulsion. The technology is there, but still it requires adding the extra weight of fuel. NASA has never liked the term extra weight.

Sorry about the double post.

yep, you got me on that.
OK but still I am sticking to NASA is studying artificial gravity despite my bad english and grammar skills.

Oh and I may have been saying that NASA had already known of spinning and acceleration. Also, that they are still doing artificial gravity but, I know that NASA isn't going to like just having two ideas. Its unsafe.
 
22nd Century?

The new Dark Ages.

But first, the 21st century will be one of mounting crisis.

*We're in the middle of biggest extinction event since that big rock killed the dinosaurs. Species are dropping off at a terrifying rate.

*World population is projected to peak at 9 billion, but the sustainable carrying capacity of the planet is closer to 3 billion (i.e., billions will die when we meet the hard end of the curve of limits to growth).

*Decreases in potable water may be even more alarming than...

*...the prospect that the age of cheap energy you can suck out of the ground is nearing its end. Countries are already muscling in for what is left. When our pain at the pump becomes too great our qualms about off-shore drilling and tar sands will disappear too; the attendant environmental consequences will, of course, follow.

*The end of oil means that nuclear power will increasingly become attractive. More nuke plants, mathematically means a higher probability of catastrophic nuclear accidents. But even if we were so naive to think that something like Chernobyl will never happen again, there is still that pesky problem with what to do with the waste (which has to be contained safely for periods that can be marked in geological time).

*Forget the near-consensus among scientists that global warming is happening, many scientists are now quietly projecting that it is really too late to do anything to significantly ameliorate the problem.

*The nuclear family is growing everyday. Welcome Iran! Welcome North Korea! These weapons, as technology grows, and is gradually and ineluctably disseminated, will eventually fall into the hands of the desperate S.O.B who is willing to use them.

On the upside, I think we will get several more cool Apple "I" products before the collective matter converges on the fan.

Wow, I can honestly say that though I have been saying earth comes first, I could have never said better or even come close.
Well done, thats the truth folks.

Apple ''I'' products :lol:
 
yep, you got me on that.
OK but still I am sticking to NASA is studying artificial gravity despite my bad english and grammar skills.

Oh and I may have been saying that NASA had already known of spinning and acceleration. Also, that they are still doing artificial gravity but, I know that NASA isn't going to like just having two ideas. Its unsafe.

OK, here it is, you can think that all you want. It doesn't make it true. You have not provided one shred of evidence that NASA is researching a true artificial gravity device. Because they aren't.

Only having 2 ways to simulate gravity may be unsafe to you, but hey, that's physics. NASA is perfectly fine with the limitations imposed by the universe.
 
yep, you got me on that.
OK but still I am sticking to NASA is studying artificial gravity despite my bad english and grammar skills.

Oh and I may have been saying that NASA had already known of spinning and acceleration. Also, that they are still doing artificial gravity but, I know that NASA isn't going to like just having two ideas. Its unsafe.

OK, here it is, you can think that all you want. It doesn't make it true. You have not provided one shred of evidence that NASA is researching a true artificial gravity device. Because they aren't.

Only having 2 ways to simulate gravity may be unsafe to you, but hey, that's physics. NASA is perfectly fine with the limitations imposed by the universe.

Yes, in your eyes I haven't provided evidence to support my as you say opinion. On the other hand you haven't provided any evidence that there isn't. I am not talking about just some forums.
NASA my be OK with the limitations, but humans never like to be held back by anything without digging at.
Oh and same to you- first and second sentence in your rebuttal.
 
Also, I really do get the impression that english is your second language. The way you structure your sentences and the grammar used in them is just - off. For exxample, the first sentence in the post above: Yes, I follow the Space technology closely. "The" is not needed before "space technology" and sounds out of place.
Although to be fair putting two Xs in the word 'example' is pretty off as well...
Or a simple typo. Where on the other hand if you look at most of KJbushway's posts in this thread you get the distinct impression that something is off.
Still, making an error like that while commenting about another person's spelling and grammar does you no favours does it?

You've come out of it looking a little silly to be honest.
 
Yes, in your eyes I haven't provided evidence to support my as you say opinion. On the other hand you haven't provided any evidence that there isn't. I am not talking about just some forums.
NASA my be OK with the limitations, but humans never like to be held back by anything without digging at.
Oh and same to you- first and second sentence in your rebuttal.

Sigh, you made the assertion, it was up to you to provide proof. You didn't. Under your logic I could easily say NASA is trying to invent shoes that inflate to become life boats. If I were to make such a comment I would definitely be prepared to offer proof.

Edit: And yea, some how I don't think NASA has anything saying what they aren't researching.

Still, making an error like that while commenting about another person's spelling and grammar does you no favours does it?

You've come out of it looking a little silly to be honest.
I never actually commented on his spelling. I realize that everyone can make a random typo. His grammar and sentence structure in a lot of his posts on the other hand, could honestly lead one to believe that english might be a second language. Read through some of them, see what you think.

Looking at KJbushway's profile I can see that he is from the U.S. so I am not sure what to think at this point. Maybe he was posting from a cellphone earlier and taking shortcuts?
 
Yes, in your eyes I haven't provided evidence to support my as you say opinion. On the other hand you haven't provided any evidence that there isn't. I am not talking about just some forums.
NASA my be OK with the limitations, but humans never like to be held back by anything without digging at.
Oh and same to you- first and second sentence in your rebuttal.

Sigh, you made the assertion, it was up to you to provide proof. You didn't. Under your logic I could easily say NASA is trying to invent shoes that inflate to become life boats. If I were to make such a comment I would definitely be prepared to offer proof.

Edit: And yea, some how I don't think NASA has anything saying what they aren't researching.

Still, making an error like that while commenting about another person's spelling and grammar does you no favours does it?

You've come out of it looking a little silly to be honest.
I never actually commented on his spelling. I realize that everyone can make a random typo. His grammar and sentence structure in a lot of his posts on the other hand, could honestly lead one to believe that english might be a second language. Read through some of them, see what you think.

Looking at KJbushway's profile I can see that he is from the U.S. so I am not sure what to think at this point. Maybe he was posting from a cellphone earlier and taking shortcuts?

1.For one you do actually have to provide proof for your rebuttal.
I may have mentioned my opinion, but your the only one to challenge me on it. So since your the only one who challenged me and made a big fuss about it.You actually do have to come up with proof that NASA has quite its research on other forms of artificial gravity. It can even be a forum, forget what I said earlier.

2.Yes, I unlike most people admit that I type faster than I should and I don't slow down to check. See most people would have insulted you back, but unlike you I keep arguing my point instead of trying to find means to insult you. Now I don't have a cellphone, I am actually at a computer typing. Now I am from the United States so much so that I could run for president. I know english, quite well in fact. Also, I didn't have bad English to the point that you couldn't understand what I was saying and argue. So I must not be doing to bad.

3. For the umpteenth time NASA is and has been researching artificial gravity and its my guess that they will continue that research until they find what they are looking for.

4. If you want to quite the argument at any time just please tell me. I will be nice and gone on my earth first piece, just for you.
 
I think a few scientists on a few small grants doesn't really mean full-blown research. Better to work on techniques that they know will work, like centripetal force, than chasing 'gravity plating' down the rabbit hole. Artificial gravity is as close as interstellar travel at the moment, so there isn't going to be much money spent on it.
 
^I just want you to produce one single piece that supports your argument. Again, There is no site that says what NASA is NOT researching. It's not like they keep a list of THINGS WE ARE NOT DOING. :rolleyes: So the onus is on you to prove what they ARE researching. You have not.

I have not been insulting in reference to your english skills. I have merely pointed out that there seems to be some ongoing mis-communication.
 
OK but still I am sticking to NASA is studying artificial gravity despite my bad english and grammar skills.

Oh and I may have been saying that NASA had already known of spinning and acceleration. Also, that they are still doing artificial gravity but, I know that NASA isn't going to like just having two ideas. Its unsafe.

That's becoming absurd.
The universe won't start changing its laws just because you think only two ways to do something is 'unsafe'.

Also - you provided no proof for your claim - that NASA is researching true artificial gravity - no links, not even the theoretical principles upon which your 'artificial gravity' research should be based (apropos that, no such principles are known to mankind at present).

Until you provide proof, your posts are worthless.
 
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NASA isn't studying artificial gravity because it can only be produced two ways. That doesn't sound right, because as I just read trying to find my proof, a spinning centrifuge isn't good for the health of the astronauts because it causes motion sickness and can lead to disorientation. Regular constant acceleration really isn't a true problem solver either, it requires that you bring your weight in fuel.

Whether is just for medical or NASA is finding ways to perfect what they already found out about AG, they still are doing research on it. You know if this doesn't bring you the comfort of me proofing it, I have a question, whats stopping you from looking it up yourself?


Artificial Gravity (AG) Overview
Based on the NSBRI research project by

Heiko Hecht, Laurence R. Young, Charles M. Oman, Bernard Cohen, Mingjia Dai, Pau DiZio, James Lackner, William H. Paloski, Fred Mast, Malcolm M. Cohen, Robert B. Welch, Lee Stone

Traditional countermeasures against the adverse effects of prolonged weightlessness, such as exercise, resistive garments and lower-body negative pressure, appear to be insufficient in practice and are often too inconvenient for astronauts. AG represents a potential countermeasure that is unique. It promises salutary effects on bone, muscle, cardiovascular and vestibular function. Rather than alleviating the symptoms, it attempts to remove their cause. Although long a favorite topic of scientists and science fiction authors, it is only now receiving serious attention for space flight experiments and validation (Young, 1999). Several recent task groups and countermeasure workshops conducted by NASA have refocused attention on AG for extended missions. Spacecraft size dictates that any AG centrifuge tested in the foreseeable future be of limited radius (on the order of 1-3 m). The largest diameter human centrifuge being considered for installation on Spacehab, is under 2.5m in diameter, thus permitting a short astronaut only to sit or bicycle, but not to stand up. Centripetal accelerations on the order of 1 g (9.8 m/sec2) at the rim will therefore require relatively high angular velocities (on the order of 30 rpm). At these speeds, AG will create disruptive sensory effects as soon as the astronaut starts to move. Limb movements are deflected and, more importantly, head movements cause unexpected semicircular canal inputs as the result of Coriolis cross-coupling between certain head movements and centrifuge rotation. One might argue that during brief centrifugation on a short-radius centrifuge (SRC) the head is best restrained to eliminate disturbances. Indeed, this is the approach taken by the Nihon University group. However, restraining the head seriously limits exercise, recreation, and comfort in the device. Movement is mandatory during long-term centrifugation (e. g. in a rotating spacecraft) and it is desirable during intermittent centrifugation (e. g. when combined with exercise). Thus, AG for in-flight gravity replacement therapy requires that crewmembers be capable of rapidly adapting to the unexpected canal inputs with minimal side- or after-effects. Furthermore, it will be essential for astronauts to retain the adaptation to the 0-g state in order to avoid "Space Adaptation Syndrome" each time they transition from the centrifuge to weightlessness.

In our ongoing experimental efforts we address some of the most important research questions requiring answers prior to AG implementation for a long mission. The premise of the research is that AG works in principle. See the Proceedings of the 18th Annual Gravitation Physiology Meeting, Copenhagen (special issue of the Journal of Gravitational Physiology, Vol. 4(2), 1997) and the workshop report by Paloski and Young (1999). The early Russian tests centrifuging rats and the limited human self-generated AG on Skylab are both encouraging. However, we know little about how to administer effective AG under spacecraft size and budget limitations (Greenleaf, Haines, Bernauer, Morse, Sandler, Armbruster, Sagan & van Beaumont, 1975; Vil-Viliams, 1994; Iwasaki, Sasaki, Hirayanagi & Yajima, 1998). Promising results have recently been obtained at Nihon University by Yajima, Iwasaki, Ito, Miyamoto, Sasaki & Hirayanagi (2000), who were able to demonstrate the efficacy of brief centrifugation as a countermeasure during extended bedrest. Daily 60 min AG sessions at 2-g were sufficient to prevent cardiovascular deconditioning. Subject cardiovascular training and head movement restrictions were required.

The remarkable ability of the nervous system to adapt to the altered gravity of space flight brings with it the built-in disadvantage of producing motion sickness, sensory illusions, and motor deficiencies when adaptive states are changed (Young, Oman, Watt, Money & Lichtenberg, 1984). We currently investigate if head and body movements during high rate AG are tolerable and how such AG can be implemented most efficiently. We search for methods to minimize the undesirable side-effects of multiple neurovestibular adaptation associated with intermittent AG.

Our (MIT) experiments on the Short-Radius Centrifuge (SRC) encourage the use of a SRC as a viable countermeasure (Hastreiter & Young, 1997; Young, Hecht, Lyne, Sienko, Cheung & Kavelaars, in press). Inappropriate eye movements (vestibulo-ocular reflexes), motion sickness and perceptual illusions are all reduced after several adaptation periods. Short daily exposures to head movements while rotating appear to yield significant adaptation. Additionally, experience with intermittent off-axis rotation on the Neurolab rotator demonstrated tolerance to high rotation rates and centrifugation in space (Moore, Clement, Raphan, Curthoys, Koizuka & B. Cohen, 2000). The Brandeis Slow Rotating Room (SRR) has yielded a wealth of information concerning the process of sensorimotor adaptation to movements in a rotating framework (Lackner & DiZio, 1998. Other experiments at Johnson Space Center (JSC) show important adaptive and maladaptive changes in head and body control following centrifugation (Kaufman, Wood, Gianna, Black & Paloski, 2000).

AG feasibility may be limited by the potential side-effects that accompany adaptation to a rotating environment. We believe that in weightlessness a major sensory conflict disappears because the conflicting gravito-inertial signals on the otolith organs are eliminated. Space experience supporting this belief includes the absence of neurovestibular consequences of cross-coupled head movements in Skylab (Graybiel, Miller & Homick, 1977) and in parabolic flight (Lackner & Graybiel, 1984), the absence of motion sickness or "nystagmus dumping" during post-rotatory head pitch on SLS-1 and SLS-2 (Oman & Balkwill, 1993; Oman, Pouliot & Natapoff, 1996) and in parabolic flight (DiZio & Lackner, 1988), and during short-radius centrifugation on Neurolab (Moore et al, 2000). However, the negative experiences of the IML-1 crew to in-flight rotation advise caution. We currently lack a full understanding of the mechanism and the limits of such adaptation. For instance, we do not know if intermittent or continuous AG works best, and AG has not yet been put to a serious test with humans in a 0-g environment. Since very few studies have investigated adaptation to short-radius, high-rate centrifugation, we seek to extend this knowledge to the particular case of short-radius centrifugation.

Even without AG, extended space travel, such as a mission to Mars, requires substantial sensorimotor adaptation. The astronaut has to be functional in several gravitational environments (1g, 0g, 0.38g). Short-radius centrifugation would introduce yet another - albeit intermittent - gravitational environment. Thus, the ability of the astronaut to change adaptive states quickly is critical to the success of AG. The altered sensory environments often generate disturbing motor-sensory feedback whenever movements are made. If the altered environment is rotating, as on a centrifuge, these sensory effects are complicated by Coriolis forces and inappropriate signals from the semicircular canals (Guedry, 1974; Gillingham & Previc, 1996; Young, 1983).

People adapt to such sensory rearrangement changes, but they normally adapt slowly over the course of several days or even weeks. Short-radius AG as a countermeasure is designed to deal with space missions in a very particular fashion. Our senses and motor system still need to function in 0-g. Thus, the astronaut must adapt to function effectively in two environments, centrifugation and 0-g. This includes exercise and probably recreation during centrifugation. And consequently head and limb movements will have to be made during centrifugation. AG will work only if the sensorimotor system can be functional in different g-environments while requiring very little or no time to switch between adaptive states. Such state changes need to be made smoothly and with minimal adverse effects (e. g. without motion sickness). That is, context-specific adaptation has to be acquired and maintained over longer periods.

References:

DiZio, P., & Lackner, J. R. (1988). The effects of gravitoinertial force level and head movements on post-rotational nystagmus and illusory after-rotation. Experimental Brain Research, 70, 485-495.

Gillingham, K. K. & Previc, F. H. (1996). Spatial orientation in flight. In R. DeHart (Ed.), Fundamentals of aerospace medicine (2nd ed., pp. 309-397). Baltimore, MD: Williams & Wilkins.

Graybiel, A., Miller, E. F. 2nd, & Homick, J. L. (1977). Experiment M131: Human vestibular function. In R. S. Johnston & L. F. Dietlein (Eds.), Biomedical Results from Skylab, (pp. 74-133), NASA SP-377. Washington, DC: Scientific and Technical Information Office, NASA.

Greenleaf, J. E., Haines, R. F., Bernauer, E. M., Morse, J. T., Sandler, H., Armbruster, R., Sagan, L., van Beaumont, W. (1975). + Gz tolerance in man after 14-day bedrest periods with isometric and isotonic exercise conditioning. Aviation, Space, and Environmental Medicine, 46, 671-678.

Guedry, F. E. (1974). Psychophysics of vestibular sensation. In H. H. Kornhuber (Ed.), Handbook of sensory physiology, Vol. 6 (2), (pp. 1-154). New York: Springer Verlag.

Hastreiter, D., & Young, L. R. (1997). Effects of a gravity gradient on human cardiovascular responses. Journal of Gravitational Physiology, 4, 23-26.

Iwasaki, K., Sasaki, K., Hirayanagi, K., & Yajima, K. (1998). Effects of repeated long duration +2 Gz load on man's cardiovascular function. Acta Astronautica, 42(1-8), 175-183.

Kaufman, G. D., Wood, S. J., Gianna, C. C., Black, F. O., & Paloski, W. H. (2000). Spatial orientation and balance control changes induced by altered gravito-inertial force vectors. Manuscript submitted for publication.

Lackner, J. R., & DiZio, P. (1998). Adaptation in a rotating artificial gravity environment. Brain Research Reviews, 28, 194-202.

Lackner, J. R., & Graybiel, A. (1984). Elicitation of motion sickness by head movements in the microgravity phase of parabolic flight maneuvers. Aviation, Space, and Environmental Medicine, 55, 513-520.

Moore, S. T, Clement, G., Raphan, T., Curthoys, I., Koizuka, I., & Cohen, B. (2000). The human response to artificial gravity in a weightless environment: Results from Neurolab centrifugation experiments. In M. S. El-Genk (Ed.), Space Technology and Applications International Forum -2000, American Institute of Physics.

Oman, C. M., & Balkwill, M. D. (1993). Horizontal angular VOR, nystagmus dumping, and sensation duration in Spacelab SLS-1 crewmembers. Journal of Vestibular Research, 3, 315-330.

Oman, C. M., Pouliot, C. F., & Natapoff, A. (1996). Horizontal angular VOR changes in orbital and parabolic flight: human neurovestibular studies on SLS-2. Journal of Applied Physiology, 81, 69-81.

Paloski, W. H., & Young, L. R. (1999). Artificial gravity workshop: Proceedings and recommendations. NASA/NSBRI Workshop Proceedings.

Vil-Viliams, I. F. (1994). Principle approaches to selection of the short-arm centrifuge regimens for extended space flight. Acta Astronautica, 33, 221-229.

Yajima, K., Iwasaki, K., Ito, M., Miyamoto, T., Sasaki, K., & Hirayanagi (2000, May). An overview of human centrifugation: How to reduce the side effects of short-arm centrifugation. Paper presented at the 13th Humans in Space Symposium, Santorini, Greece.

Young, L. R. (1983). Perception of the body in space: mechanisms. In J. M. Brookhart, V. B. Mountcastle and H. W. Magoun, Handbook of physiology: The nervous system III (pp. 1023-1066). Bethesda, MD: American Physiological Society.

Young, L. R. (1999). Artificial gravity considerations for a Mars exploration mission. In B. J. M. Hess & B. Cohen (Eds.), Otolith function in spatial orientation and movement, 871 (pp. 367-378). New York: New York Academy of Sciences.

Young, L. R., Hecht, H., Lyne, L., Sienko, K., Cheung, C., & Kavelaars, J. (in press). Artificial gravity: Head movements during short-radius centrifugation. Acta Astronautica.

Young, L.R., Oman, C. M., Watt, D. G. D., Money, K. E., & Lichtenberg, B. K. (1984). Spatial orientation in weightlessness and readaptation to earth’s gravity. Science, 225(4658), 205-20
 
Hey I think this thread was supposed to be a leeetle more lighthearted than what you're doing.
 
what I dream the 22ND century to look like?
Well heres a timeline.(this just comes from my overactive imagination-you can ignore it)
by 2020
A person will have created a high tech shuttle in their back yard in one of those huge metal barns.
then that person will use it to go between Mars and Jupiter near the asteroid belt where that person will release construction and cargo devices that in 3 months time will take metal and different essential elements out of the asteroids to build a small base and construction yard.
This person(who hasn't informed their government, kept it to themselves)
after the 3 months will then head to the newly finished base, where at that time he will implant new construction orders to build 3 ships in one year. That person will come back and forth for that one year to check on the progress. After that year is up and the ships are built, a crew of androids designed by that person will begin to board them.
Once the ships are boarded then they will head to Earth to introduce themselves to the world. They will come in peace and quickly claim Antarctica as theirs until they leave.
That also means controlling the waters surrounding. Which at that time will end whaling in that region for good.
One year after the arrival, the F.S.E(I let your imagination run with the name) will have a navy and army comprised of actual humans. Their star fleet will also comprise of humans. They will have 13 ships not including the original 3.
Around the 22nd century they will have left Earth and have already settled on their home world which they terra-formed.
:wtf: :vulcan: :eek:

During the 22ND century Earth will no doubt try to increase there knowledge because of the F.S.E and because some governments will not trust them. They will also try to increase their knowledge to see if the F.S.E left anything behind in their quick departure.
What they don't know is that they did, one of their first ships around Saturn's orbit.
 
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Hey I think this thread was supposed to be a leeetle more lighthearted than what you're doing.
If the original poster hasn't complained about the direction the thread has taken there is really nothing we can do. Threads tend to take on a life of their own and all I can do is drag everyone back on topic when it is needed. And despite some folks being stuck in what seems to have become an endless loop, right now they are on topic. I am keeping a close eye on things though. I always do.
 
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