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What We Left Behind - Documentary Update Confirms *Some* HD Remastering
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Ronald D. Moore on the season eight pitch:
https://comicbook.com/startrek/2019...n-deep-space-nine-documentary-ronald-d-moore/
https://comicbook.com/startrek/2019...n-deep-space-nine-documentary-ronald-d-moore/
It doesn't seem like CBSAA has any interest in a S8 of DS9. With the remaining cast members so much older it would have to be set like 20 years after the series finale if it was done. With the Section 9 series going forward, Discovery getting a 3rd season, the Picard series set to debut, and the possibility of a new Trek film, not to mention the animated series. It seems as if Kurtzman is setting Trek up for franchise fatigue, which supposedly was responsible for the decline in interest in Trek which led to the poor box office performance of Nemesis and the eventual cancellation of Enterprise due to low ratings combined with the high cost of the series.
No one thinks season 8 was ever going to happen. It was a nice thought experiment for the celebratory documentary.
But it doesn't mean we'll never see or hear of DS9 or any of the characters again. Patrick Stewart is already talking about season two of Picard, so the late 24th century is very much alive and kicking. Who knows who we'll meet in the 25th century?
Hopefully not Buck Rogers.
But it doesn't mean we'll never see or hear of DS9 or any of the characters again. Patrick Stewart is already talking about season two of Picard, so the late 24th century is very much alive and kicking. Who knows who we'll meet in the 25th century?
Hopefully not Buck Rogers.
If not Buck Rogers, how about Duck Dodgers? 
During its prime, Star Trek was popping out 52 episodes a year. Plus a movie every two years. That is a huge difference between Berman Trek and Kurtzman Trek. Discovery S3 will be 13 episodes, Picard 10 episodes and 10 episodes for Lower Decks. Plus Kurtzman has made a considerable effort to keep the Trek shows all different.
The way franchises are treated right now, not really sure how much franchise fatigue is even really a thing. CW has had the Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow, Black lightening, Batwoman all airing right now. They will also be airing Stargirl in the spring. Plus a Superman show and Black Canaries show in development for next season.
I just don't buy that franchise fatigue is in play right now.
Indeed. Conditions are completely different from 90s Trek.
I'm really late to this party, but I finally watched the documentary. It was very, very well done. Pretty much anything that I could bring up I'm sure has been mentioned before (or at least I'm not going to take the time to look through it all, lol), but I do have two things to mention.
First, the writers room segments were great, and it really made me think that they could do an eighth season of the show (at least the first episode catches my interest). I know this never will happen, but it's at least fun to contemplate.
Second, Behr was a bit unhappy that they didn't deal more with gender identity in the show, and used the example of Garak, and how (at least to him at this point) is a gay character, but never acknowledged as so. I never really saw him that way, but perhaps I'm forgetting about something?
First, the writers room segments were great, and it really made me think that they could do an eighth season of the show (at least the first episode catches my interest). I know this never will happen, but it's at least fun to contemplate.
Second, Behr was a bit unhappy that they didn't deal more with gender identity in the show, and used the example of Garak, and how (at least to him at this point) is a gay character, but never acknowledged as so. I never really saw him that way, but perhaps I'm forgetting about something?
Garak's first appearance, at least, with Bashir was...interesting.
If you check the thread for posts by me, I have more comments on the gender identity thing, but I don't have time to recount the whole story here. But yeah, Behr seems to take it pretty seriously that the show didn't succeed as fully as it might have on that front.
If you check the thread for posts by me, I have more comments on the gender identity thing, but I don't have time to recount the whole story here. But yeah, Behr seems to take it pretty seriously that the show didn't succeed as fully as it might have on that front.
In the documentary, Behr focuses on The Wire as a point in which Garak should have come out and begin a relationship with Bashir. I tend to think that by The Wire, they had already missed the boat. Garak was becoming more difficult to trust, and he was far from being committed to personal and political reform (as he would by the end of the series). I'm not sure what kind of "boyfriend material" could he be without making him more moral.
Saw the wonderfully done doc over the holidays.
What a superb love letter to the fans, cast and staff, past and present!
Wish they'd release the other hours of interviews.
the potential season 8, episode 1 was a thrill, but it also hit hard, as Eisenberg passed away in real life too, along with Auberjonois.
Haven't given up hope for a HD remaster, despite the extensive and still expensive work it would need.
What a superb love letter to the fans, cast and staff, past and present!
Wish they'd release the other hours of interviews.
the potential season 8, episode 1 was a thrill, but it also hit hard, as Eisenberg passed away in real life too, along with Auberjonois.
Haven't given up hope for a HD remaster, despite the extensive and still expensive work it would need.
I took it a little differently in that the wire would be where he would come out as gay, but not necessarily that a relationship with Bashir would ensue. It would have been fascinating to see how the revelation would have affected his relationships with the other characters. Would they even know? Would there have been a new recurring guest character to be his love interest? We (and he) have no idea how that storyline would even have unfolded, and he obviously was disappointed in the road not taken.
True, Garak did not need to be in a relationship with Bashir. My bigger issue is that the 1980s and 90s had plenty of gay characters who were on morally uncertain or involved with dangerous affairs. There were many fewer representations that show gay men and women as being capable of being happy and healthy and blending into society. If they simply said Garak is gay given his story, I would have said, "So what? Show me something new."
Why would he have to be moral to be gay or even be a boyfriend to be gay? I don't think Bashir would respond that way because I don't think he trusted him even though he find him interesting and of course you got the issue of the fact Bashir wasn't gay. If anything him coming out being gay could be a issue since homophobia might be a issue with that culture and their is also the idea that Garak ever admitting the truth especially something that personal is something that could drive him down a even darker path because of how vulnerable it makes him feel. While Garak does keep secrets because he likes to be seen as mysterious I think part of is also because he doesn't trust people and any truths he admits will be exploited by others to take advantage of him.
Jason
Perhaps you did not read both my posts? The problem was with regard to the position of American culture in the 1990s.
IMO they shouldn't be worried about what the people will think. They should do whatever they feel makes for a great story. I tend to follow the idea that most fans don't know what they want until they see it. Granted I understand getting Berman to sign off on any of this would no doubt be impossible so in that regard it's almost moot. I do think one might have some concern with how they wrote the Intendent but the whole Mirror Universe stuff ended up being pure escapism camp so they were not really taking it serious so I don't think Garak would be written in a offensive way if they did make him gay.
Jason
I'll admit, it does bug me a bit that the argument is whether Garak should have been gay or not. The first person to ever decide that Garak wasn't straight was Andy Robinson, and he chose to play him as omnisexual. Making a character as inherently interesting as our friend Elim gay would be as boring as it is to make him straight. In my opinion, at least. In the absence of the show being explicit, I side with the actor who also wrote an excellent novel about the character. Garak isn't gay or straight, (or even bi) ...he's just attracted to people that he finds attractive. Who or what they are is immaterial. When it comes to sexuality, he is the most "Star Trek" character there is. 
Garak is one of my favorite Star Trej characters ever, no matter his sexuality.
Reading about how Andy Robinson approached it all, makes me appreciate the actor and person very much too!
the DS9 cast/crew were and are awesome in so many ways.
Reading about how Andy Robinson approached it all, makes me appreciate the actor and person very much too!
the DS9 cast/crew were and are awesome in so many ways.
