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What was your first reaction to the Spock/Uhura romance?

I actually liked it and thought it came off well. I do wonder what Spock Prime would say to NuSpock about it, though.

"Most illogical." Plus an eyebrow raise. ;)

One thing that always come across (to me, anyhow) was that Spock Prime was kind of a lonely guy for much of his life. Yeah, lots of people held him in high regard, but there were very few he could be relax and be comfortable around. Jim and Bones were indisputably his closest friends by far, his relationship with his father was rocky at times, Saavik the closest he came to having a daughter / protege, miscellaneous crazed females who wanted to jump his bones (Terrible, just terrible), and so on.

That his counterpart might actually do better in personal relationships is, I think, something S-P would approve of. Very discreetly and with a tad of humour, of course.
 
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It was certainly a gamble, but at least they took something we knew and expanded on it, and made it interesting to watch.
 
I actually liked it and thought it came off well. I do wonder what Spock Prime would say to NuSpock about it, though.

"Most illogical." Plus an eyebrow raise. ;)

One thing that always come across (to me, anyhow) was that Spock Prime was kind of a lonely guy for much of his life. Yeah, lots of people held him in high regard, but there were very few he could be relax and be comfortable around. Jim and Bones were indisputably his closest friends by far, his relationship with his father was rocky at times, Saavik the closest he came to having a daughter / protege, miscellaneous crazed females who wanted to jump his bones (Terrible, just terrible), and so on.

That his counterpart might actually do better in personal relationships is, I think, something S-P would approve of. Very discreetly and with a tad of humour, of course.
I think Spock Prime told his young counterpart what it took him part of his first life to figure out. "It's okay to be human, and you shouldn't feel ashamed of what you are. You're half-human, so celebrate it."
 
Conceptually, I didn't have a problem with it.

As presented, it was poorly handled. On at least 3 occasions they injected it inappropriately into the middle of critical moments:

1) the shuttle hangar scene at the Academy

2) the turbolift scene

3) the transporter room scene when Kirk and Spock are about to beam to the Narada
 
Conceptually, I didn't have a problem with it.

As presented, it was poorly handled. On at least 3 occasions they injected it inappropriately into the middle of critical moments:

1) the shuttle hangar scene at the Academy

2) the turbolift scene

3) the transporter room scene when Kirk and Spock are about to beam to the Narada

So, in your opinion, where in the movie SHOULD they have put Spock-Uhura scenes?

Seems to me that they all worked fine as was.
 
Conceptually, I didn't have a problem with it.

As presented, it was poorly handled. On at least 3 occasions they injected it inappropriately into the middle of critical moments:

1) the shuttle hangar scene at the Academy

2) the turbolift scene

3) the transporter room scene when Kirk and Spock are about to beam to the Narada

So, in your opinion, where in the movie SHOULD they have put Spock-Uhura scenes?

Seems to me that they all worked fine as was.

I thought the academy hangar scenes sucked ass, the other two were okay as is.
 
I thought the academy hangar scenes sucked ass, the other two were okay as is.

The hanger scene was contrasting how Uhura and Kirk got on the Enterprise. . .one of them used her credentials to logically prove that she had earned her place, and the other, already accused of cheating, was smuggled aboard as a stowaway. . . compare/contrast. . the scene worked for me. . . :p


~FS
 
Conceptually, I didn't have a problem with it.

As presented, it was poorly handled. On at least 3 occasions they injected it inappropriately into the middle of critical moments:

1) the shuttle hangar scene at the Academy

2) the turbolift scene

3) the transporter room scene when Kirk and Spock are about to beam to the Narada

So, in your opinion, where in the movie SHOULD they have put Spock-Uhura scenes?

Seems to me that they all worked fine as was.

If they wanted a Spock/Uhura romance, they should have found some place OTHER than in the middle of a crisis situation to explore it. The manner in which they conducted themselves was unprofessional and unrealistic.

The third scene is the worst offender of all. Time is critical, Earth is in deadly danger, Pike is still a prisoner, and they're going to delay the rescue mission for a good snog and a quip about her name...:wtf:
 
I thought the academy hangar scenes sucked ass, the other two were okay as is.

The hanger scene was contrasting how Uhura and Kirk got on the Enterprise. . .one of them used her credentials to logically prove that she had earned her place, and the other, already accused of cheating, was smuggled aboard as a stowaway. . . compare/contrast. . the scene worked for me. . . :p


~FS

Uhura was grossly insubordinate to a superior officer (who is also romantically involved with her, which is inappropriate in an entirely different level). The middle of a crisis is NOT the time to throw your weight around with your boss in general, and most definitely NOT in the military.
 
Yeah, but Starfleet's a bit iffy in the military department. I agree it was unprofessional, but it was quite ... human.
 
Star Trek isn't a military training film. It's an action-adventure franchise, in which people do interestly dramatic things as characters rather than professional role models.
 
Star Trek isn't a military training film. It's an action-adventure franchise, in which people do interestly dramatic things as characters rather than professional role models.

Yep. It's the same way with dialog. Realistic dialog is simply not entertaining. Real people stutter, slur, use words poorly, and are rarely witty. And they're often worse under pressure. But good scripted dialog gives characters amazing things to say while not sounding scripted.

But they should do it in at least a semi-believable manner.

But it was semi-believable. Uhura clearly felt concerned for her lover and took the only opportunity she had to console him. True, she was insubordinate earlier, and that stood out a bit on first viewing, but once you understand the context that both characters relate on terms that go beyond their careers, even that makes sense.
 
In the first scene, Uhura's behavior reminded me of a child throwing a temper tantrum because she didn't get her way. Spock's actions were no better, seemed almost like a creepy pedophile trying to keep an illicit relationship with a child quiet. The other two played out okay, but that first one really needed a serious rewrite or to be left on the cutting room floor. YMMV.
 
In the first scene, Uhura's behavior reminded me of a child throwing a temper tantrum because she didn't get her way. Spock's actions were no better, seemed almost like a creepy pedophile trying to keep an illicit relationship with a child quiet. The other two played out okay, but that first one really needed a serious rewrite or to be left on the cutting room floor. YMMV.


Boy, does my mileage does vary. . . woof. . . I saw someone who knew what she deserved, knew what she had done to deserve it, and when she was passed over for no good reason, went after it. . . I find it strange that when it's Uhura being proactive, most people have problems with it. . . almost any other character would be admired for the same behavior. . . for bucking the system, for not taking no for an answer. . . isn't that Kirk all over?

~FS
 
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