What was wrong with "These are the Voyages"

[JiNX-01]

TATV is an absolute piece of crap that needs to burn in hell.








...but it's still canon.

Or a Bobby Ewing shower moment? Was never a ENT fan and came to four seasons late but HORRIFIED that this was how treated at end. People responsible should have been taken out and...retired (oh, they were? a bit late...). Didn't help that TATV featured my least favorite trek actors, one of whom also popped up in VOY

If you mean Jonathan and Marina ... they both turned up on Voyager.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I liked Marina on VOY, really VOY and FC were the only times I did like her.

I have always loathed Riker, he is my only hated character ever. Seeing his smug face all over TATV makes me sick, as does the whole episode. I think Mach5 points out the obvious, how very very much of it would have been fiction. Really Riker and Troi act like they are watching a doco but they were just playing a historical fiction novel, the same as anything we watch on tv about long dead history makers with conversations at home etc.. so it can safely be dismissed as someone's dumb holonovel.

Though it does raise one interesting question.. how did it come to be known for posterity that Trip and T'Pol had a relationship?

 

[Mach5]

how did it come to be known for posterity that Trip and T'Pol had a relationship?

Elisabeth was in fact the first living, breathing Human/Vulcan hybrid, wasn't she? Surely, a history book or two would have mentioned her and her parents.

 

[Captain Robert April]

Sarek did mention that Spock was not the first human/Vulcan hybrid (just the first to survive) in his "interview" with Gene Roddenberry on the "Inside Star Trek" album.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

how did it come to be known for posterity that Trip and T'Pol had a relationship?

Elisabeth was in fact the first living, breathing Human/Vulcan hybrid, wasn't she? Surely, a history book or two would have mentioned her and her parents.

That wasn't the result of their relationship, it was the result of someone stealing their DNA.

 

[Mach5]

That wasn't the result of their relationship, it was the result of someone stealing their DNA.

But why were the two of them picked in the first place? Terra Prime could have mixed T'Pol's DNA with any human's, but for some reason they chose Trip.

After the Xindi mission, the NX-01 crew were heroes, practically celebrities, right? The public probably wanted to know everything about them, and it's possible that the reporters explored their backgrounds. Some of them must have found out that the engineer went to Vulcan with the sexy pointy eared science officer, instead of staying on earth with his family, right?

Who knows, maybe it was Malcolm who spilled everything about Trip and T'Pol to some sexy journalist after a beer or two.

 

[Kaziarl]

That wasn't the result of their relationship, it was the result of someone stealing their DNA.

But why were the two of them picked in the first place? Terra Prime could have mixed T'Pol's DNA with any human's, but for some reason they chose Trip.

After the Xindi mission, the NX-01 crew were heroes, practically celebrities, right? The public probably wanted to know everything about them, and it's possible that the reporters explored their backgrounds. Some of them must have found out that the engineer went to Vulcan with the sexy pointy eared science officer, instead of staying on earth with his family, right?

Who knows, maybe it was Malcolm who spilled everything about Trip and T'Pol to some sexy journalist after a bear or two.

Is it bad that I can just imagine a series of national enquirer articles or entertainment tonight episodes dedicated to who slept with who on the NX-01?

 

[Captain Robert April]

Yeah, we all know how Malcolm loves them bears...

 

[Mach5]

Yeah, we all know how Malcolm loves them bears...

What's not to love?

Spoiler: bears

 

[Vulpes]

I dunno, I kind of liked it. Granted, I'm not much of a Enterprise fan. I have no real attachment to any of the characters, so Trip's death didn't really bother me.

Not that good for a TNG episode, but better than a lot of ENT episodes. Only thing that really annoyed me was how different the TNG characters looked, but that was pretty unavoidable.

 

[Admiral Shran]

What was wrong with TATV? Just about everything.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

EVERYTHING EVERYTHING EVERYTHING.

It sucked like a temporal vacuum tachyon beam. SUCKED. If suckiness was a virtue it would be freaking canonized out the wazoo. People would worship it, they would wear medals featuring Riker's fat glistening face around their neck which they would hopefully clutch whenever faced with incredibly suckiness. Like if a black hole was ready to consume earth. That would be the time to remember the Holy Suckness that is TATV and hope that your fate was somehow a lesser fate than that.

 

[Kaziarl]

So... you thought it was average? (jk)

I dunno, I honestly thought it was ok. I can see how people didn't like it as a season, and in this case a series finale, but I don't feel it was a great big steaming dog turd that some make it out to be.

It was just, average I guess.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

IT SUCKED.

Where is the double triple bold when you need it.

The things I hate in Trek is a VERY small list (yes I keep a list). TATV is one of them.

 

[Vulpes]

I don't see what's so awful about it. Especially compared to Carpenter Street.

 

[Mach5]

Uhm, uh...

Wat

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Uhm, uh...

Wat

Was that the actual cover?????

 

[Kaziarl]

Whats wrong with it? A "Great Sacrifice" in this context is simply giving your life for someone else. Whether you like how it happened or now, thats basically what Trip did.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I'm expressing shock because I don't own that one.

 

[Captain Robert April]

It just came out.