The Federation was able to open Borg transwarp corridors as early as TNG’s “Descent”.
What was "The Burn" and what caused it?
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The Federation was able to open Borg transwarp corridors as early as TNG’s “Descent”.
And guarded by "Top Men" too.
My guess it took less than a day, why would Nero with his advanced mining ship take more than a day to destroy Vulcan and Starfleet, the rest of the fleet was in the Laurentian system and did not have time to show up.
Vulcan is 17 light-years from Earth or thereabouts so I could imagine a Kelvin Timeline starship getting there in less than a day at maximum warp.
What is the Burn?
A plot device.
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A plot device.
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Guess it didn't take.
If the past two seasons are any guide, it will end up being a not thought out very well plot device.
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Well, as long as we set up our expectations to avoid disappointment that's a victory. 
Well, as long as we set up our expectations to avoid disappointment that's a victory.
I don't think it is asking too much to have a coherent plot that doesn't fall apart at a glance. They have some truly great actors that the writing has let down time and again, I hope that changes this season.
I don't either but going in to it expecting it to fall apart is just...I don't know what to describe it other than strange.
I don't either but going in to it expecting it to fall apart is just...I don't know what to describe it other than strange.
I'm hopeful that it doesn't. But Discovery's plots over two seasons haven't exactly been solid, so I don't think it is outlandish to hold one's proverbial breath until they can prove that they can do a solid season long arc and stick the landing. The show has fooled me before.
The one thing that did impress me to a degree was that the dialogue was much sharper than it has ever been. Hopefully it carries over to the other episodes.
Well the Genesis device was never seen again, maybe it was followed by the Exodus device, then the Leviticus device all the way to the Revelations device.
The Burn will be explained, along with The Fire and The Smoke
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Sounds about right. In TMP Kirk said V'Ger was fifty-three point four hours away from Earth (after leaving Klingon space) and managed to meet it about half way.
I just need The Burn to be interesting and well thought out enough to hang their story arc on. As far as the Genesis Device goes, Protomatter made it into Deep Space Nine.
The burn will be a means to and end, like Khan recognising Chekov, and a Starfleet science ship not noticing a whole planet was missing, (did those officers even graduate?)
We should still want it to make sense. Seriously, how many complaints have we had over the years over the Reliant missing that a planet was missing on this very board? It gets mentioned in almost every thread related to TWoK. Because they screwed something up in the past shouldn't give them license to not think through how their plot devices work in the here and now.
I could be completely wrong, and I hope I am.
The Burn is already interesting.
I haven't said otherwise. The Red Angel arc was interesting conceptually, but ended up falling on its face in execution.
Interesting is still interesting to me. If they don't stick the landing then they don't. Doesn't take value away from an interesting idea.
