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What was "The Burn" and what caused it?

Bah,! I'm sorry but the spore drive is no more out of line for Star Trek, then some of the other methods of travel they've come up with such as quantum slipstream drive, or trans warp drive.

And I still want to know how all the people and ships when they travel it near light speed under impulse drive avoid the relativity effects it would cause.

Star Trek has always been science fantasy. It's never been true "Hard" science fiction. So yeah I have no problem with the spore drive, Any more than I have a problem that they can get to nearly any star system in the galaxy in the 50 minutes needed for the plot of a given story they're telling this week.:angel:;)


It'll turn out to have been caused by the Cosmic Koala entity from the recently aired episode of Star Trek Lower Decks.
:wtf::rofl::whistle:;)
time dilation only really becomes pronounced at very very close to C. At half-c or even 80% it is not problematic.
 
Would the Prime Directive even apply to the Disco crew this far in the future?
It'll be better than that. Since so many left the Federation in the wake of the Burn and now fall under the non-interference clause, Burnham trying to convince them to join again would itself be a violation of the Prime Directive.

:guffaw:
 
It'll be better than that. Since so many left the Federation in the wake of the Burn and now fall under the non-interference clause, Burnham trying to convince them to join again would itself be a violation of the Prime Directive.

:guffaw:
Not the 23rd century version of the prime directive; which is what she'd be working under.

You're talking the 24th century version that Jean-Luc Picard often pontificated about.;)
 
Well most of the planets involved are probably currently "No Warp". :nyah:
what do you imagine POST meant in that quote? Post, as in used to have it, now they don't... ;)

Either way, kinda dumb argument, as clearly has nothing to do with disrupting less advanced, developing civilizations. They're well aware of the greater universe, the ships just ran out of gas...

About as relevant as saying the P.D. applies to the Q, since they don't have warp capable ships...
 
I know it doesn't make for dramatic storytelling for The Burn to have been caused by a natural phenomenon that made all processed dilithium in the galaxy suddenly unstable. More likely, it will be Section 31's failed plot to stop everyone, everywhere from using time travel.
I'm beginning to think Yeoh's Section 31 show will be set in the 32nd century, with her rebuilding of the agency. Or, maybe S31 survived the breakup of the Fed and had become a fiefdom unto itself? (and needs an Empress, er, Director?)
The future badge turns black in the intro just like the 31 badge did in S2, so I guess there will be a form of future 31
 
Not sure if this theory has been mentioned yet 23 pages in, but what if the reason all the dilithium exploded is the Q finally judged humans guilty?

They finally passed sentence on humans to be sent back to the planet from whence they came.
 
I am pretty sure the Core of the Federation will still be intact - AS Earth, Vulcan, Andor, and Tellar are pretty close to one another
 
The future badge turns black in the intro just like the 31 badge did in S2, so I guess there will be a form of future 31

31's sole motivation is to preserve and protect the Federation. Do you really think that just because the Federation is in tatters that 31 would call it a day?
 
The other issue I have with "All Dilithium Crystals" go boom simultaneously is that where the HELL was Section 31?

Isn't it there job to protect the Federation?

How the eff did they let a catastrophy of this scale happen?

I'm sure they would use Time Travel to solve/prevent this disaster from whatever caused it if they can figure out what caused it.

Time Travel, if used correctly, could be the Ultimate tool for peace, knowledge, and scientific pursuit.

Imagine if every murder and kidnapping can be solved via Time Travel.

No more Murders / Kidnapping would ever happen since you can go back in time and fix things.

Imagine if every single Robbery / Theft / Terroristic Act / Catastrophe could be prevented because you can do the investigation afterwards and go back in time to prevent it.

That's some real GOOD use of that type of power / technology.
 
The other issue I have with "All Dilithium Crystals" go boom simultaneously is that where the HELL was Section 31?

Isn't it there job to protect the Federation?

How the eff did they let a catastrophy of this scale happen?

I'm sure they would use Time Travel to solve/prevent this disaster from whatever caused it if they can figure out what caused it.

Time Travel, if used correctly, could be the Ultimate tool for peace, knowledge, and scientific pursuit.

Imagine if every murder and kidnapping can be solved via Time Travel.

No more Murders / Kidnapping would ever happen since you can go back in time and fix things.

Imagine if every single Robbery / Theft / Terroristic Act / Catastrophe could be prevented because you can do the investigation afterwards and go back in time to prevent it.

That's some real GOOD use of that type of power / technology.
That's what Vosk said, and Archer's response was good: Who decides what changes are done?
 
No more Murders / Kidnapping would ever happen since you can go back in time and fix things.

Imagine if every single Robbery / Theft / Terroristic Act / Catastrophe could be prevented because you can do the investigation afterwards and go back in time to prevent it.

That's some real GOOD use of that type of power / technology.

No.

That is the whole point that City on the edge of Forever made. McCoy prevented an innocent woman from being killed, and that ended up with Hitler winning the war.
You will not know how your changes will affect the tineline.
 
For the Prime Directive. I imagine the current federation has a list of former members, and lets say Discovery goes down that list to visit. Now, everyone on that list is a "Post Warp" society, so the prime directive wouldn't apply, UNLESS, its regressed to a pre warp society like an agrarian, then one might not be to hasty on contact.
They kind of warped over the time travel thingy, was there a war? and now its completly outlawed?
 
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