Especially as a department head. At least be a lieutenant.
What the frell happened?
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Janeway just fucking hated Kim.
Janeway was lying when she was saying we she wouldn't promote Kim. "There's a command structure". She promoted Tuvok from Lieutenant to Lieutenant Commander toward the beginning of the fourth season of VOY.
Anyway, I'm kind of curious about what Ensign Kim (no that's not a typo!
) is up to during the Picard Era.
Anyway, I'm kind of curious about what Ensign Kim (no that's not a typo!
) is up to during the Picard Era.
I think Janeway saw Kim as the full representation of her stranding Voyager and forever altering a promising career. And rather than reasonably advance his career she holds him back in vain hope he can go back and have a "normal career."
And she's completely wrong.
I have a different read. Kim is book smart. Which means he aced the Academy. But, like IRL, there's a difference between the classroom and being out on the field. Kim never seemed to have the confidence or composure to lead others. When he steps up, it's a Big Deal. He's not leader material. So he stays in the lower ranks and doesn't move up the ladder. He only got a Senior Staff position on Voyager because of his grades at the Academy.
Paris, OTOH, is someone who didn't have the grades, but he has a take-charge kind of attitude, and has confidence, so he was promoted to Lieutenant. And, in fact, in "Unimatrix Zero", it's established that Paris is fourth-in-command behind Janeway, Chakotay, and Tuvok. So, you either have it or you don't. Some people are cut out to be leaders and are fit to move up, others are not.
Another example is Torres. She had the technical skills and she had the natural ability to take charge. That's why Chakotay pushed and fought to have her be made Chief Engineer.
Torres is in charge of people in Engineering. Paris is fourth-in-line in command. People would report to them. Kim just has night shift for a few hours every week, where he's in "command", which they treat like a joke, because Janeway and Chakotay are always nearby to step in, if a real emergency comes up.
Paris, OTOH, is someone who didn't have the grades, but he has a take-charge kind of attitude, and has confidence, so he was promoted to Lieutenant. And, in fact, in "Unimatrix Zero", it's established that Paris is fourth-in-command behind Janeway, Chakotay, and Tuvok. So, you either have it or you don't. Some people are cut out to be leaders and are fit to move up, others are not.
Another example is Torres. She had the technical skills and she had the natural ability to take charge. That's why Chakotay pushed and fought to have her be made Chief Engineer.
Torres is in charge of people in Engineering. Paris is fourth-in-line in command. People would report to them. Kim just has night shift for a few hours every week, where he's in "command", which they treat like a joke, because Janeway and Chakotay are always nearby to step in, if a real emergency comes up.
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An Easter egg in a season rotten with them. Big fucking whoop.
It was pretty apparent that the budget for season 2 got spent on season 3 instead. What's frustrating is that since both seasons were shot back-to-back, they could have found a much better way for streamlining and integrating the storylines. Scrap the past version of Soji storyline from season 2 and integrate her into season 3 so she can have a storyline with Data, that would have been some good screentime and better bridged all 3 seasons.
What the Enterprise D would cost a whole season budget?
Only because of covid.
No matter how much money they'd had available for Season 2, they couldn't really do anything with it because of the pandemic. That's why S2 took place in the 21st century, and tended to have the same small groups of characters hanging around each other - because the pandemic forced actors to group themselves into 'bubbles' to limit the spread of the virus.
Had the pandemic never happened, we have no idea what S2 would have been like. For all we know it would have been a hundred times more epic than S3 was.
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It wasn't cheap and neither were the Next Gen cast. No one did it just for love. So not the entire budget, but a sizable chunk.
Oh the cast wouldn't have been cheap but what is the major expense of building a set?
I thought a lot of sets were in storage?
Pretty sure they painstakingly rebuilt the D’s bridge (which is why it was the only set for that ship). They got a little obsessive about it. And who can blame them? I mean, Trekkies, after all.
They could have used actual screens on the D considering that they did this in other shows like Enterprise and Discovery which would have gone into the expense..
Don't forget the Stargazer/Titan sets. Those were almost certainly part of the season 3 budget.
They did. This diagram includes information on which displays were live screens (the conn and ops consoles up front, and the five consoles in back; the tactical rail, Riker and Troi's little pedestals, and the various other displays dotted around the bridge were done the old-fashioned way).
All destroyed. it was a ground up new build. Plus they added modern tech for the various panels and screens.
Nope. The only set from the 90s shows that was kept in storage after its series ended was the Defiant's bridge, which went on to become the bridges of several ships of the week on Voyager and Enterprise. And even that was destroyed after Enterprise ended.
It also allowed them to take advantage of LA tax credits by filming mostly in LA proper. Which, during the height of the pandemic, would definitely have made it cheaper.
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