I honestly wish I could do more than just like your post. We're seeing it in Druidry, too, and it's sickening.
What religion/faith are you?
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I honestly wish I could do more than just like your post. We're seeing it in Druidry, too, and it's sickening.
Of course - the REAL Nazis (as opposed to the idiots claiming that sick title) also tried to co-opt Norse mythology.
I hope that Odin is having fun with Hitler and his cronies ("fun" being ... not fun for Hitler)!
I hope that Odin is having fun with Hitler and his cronies ("fun" being ... not fun for Hitler)!
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It gets quelled rather quickly in the witch quarter, but that's because we have a really strong, constant feminine presence. Most of the witches I associate with are intersectional feminist pagans, many of whom who are very left wing, anti-authoritarians.
True. The Nazis tried to pervert everything they touched.
I would have thought white Supremists would be Christians. Not pagan.
Who da thunk?
Anyway I'm not Wiccan any more so guess I was not aware.
OK, I've thought about speaking up for the last couple days, but both times the conversation had moved on and things had improved before I saw the thread for the day, so I didn't want to rehash some minor things that people had already moved on from.
However, things like this don't help:
Recall that we define trolling as posting something that will anger another member and incite them to flame you back. Yes, this is a rather minor example, but this thread has been prickly enough already, and I don't want to see a powder keg be ignited.
And this goes out to everyone, not just the member I quoted above. Some posts have been really inching up to the line. We may not all share the same backgrounds and beliefs, but I don't think it is too much to ask to at least respect the beliefs of others, even if you may not personally understand how they could believe such. We should be able to have a discussion about religious beliefs, or lack thereof, without mocking or deriding the beliefs (or lack of beliefs) of others.
Thank you, and now back to your regularly scheduled thread.
However, things like this don't help:
Recall that we define trolling as posting something that will anger another member and incite them to flame you back. Yes, this is a rather minor example, but this thread has been prickly enough already, and I don't want to see a powder keg be ignited.
And this goes out to everyone, not just the member I quoted above. Some posts have been really inching up to the line. We may not all share the same backgrounds and beliefs, but I don't think it is too much to ask to at least respect the beliefs of others, even if you may not personally understand how they could believe such. We should be able to have a discussion about religious beliefs, or lack thereof, without mocking or deriding the beliefs (or lack of beliefs) of others.
Thank you, and now back to your regularly scheduled thread.
They might claim to be, but they're not.
Forgive me if I am wrong but that does sound like the no true Christian fallacy or no true anything for that matter.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman
What about other planets? What about the moons of Jupiter and Saturn? Io is geologically active, as Earth was in its early phase. There was a time, billions of years ago, when Earth was like Io is now, and it was NOT hospitable to life. The Cassini probe discovered an ocean of liquid water on Enceladus, one of the moons of Saturn. There are organic compounds there, so it's possible that life either exists there now, or might exist millions or billions of years in the future. That's why it was decided to make Cassini crash into Saturn, rather than risk it crashing into Enceladus and possibly killing whatever life either was there or has the potential to be there.
Only human arrogance and scientific shortsightedness would conclude that "Earth suits us and it's pretty, so (fill in the god of your choice) created it especially for us."
Why - because they wouldn't automatically tell you to pray for a solution to your problems, rather than explore other options?
You are suffering from the mistaken notion that atheists cannot have spiritual feelings or (as Oprah Winfrey so arrogantly and erroneously claimed) that we cannot feel awe.
It's enough to wish them to go to their own hell. After all, they wouldn't consider it "hell" if it didn't fit their concept of an awful place.
I'm reminded of two people: My grandfather didn't believe in god, but he did say that he thought the "golden rule" ("Do unto others...") was the only useful advice the bible ever had. He said if everyone followed that, the world would be a much better place.
The second person I'm reminded of is one of the admins of the other forum I spend a lot of time on. It's a computer gaming forum, but there's a robust off-topic discussion area that's like a combination of our Miscellaneous and TNZ forums. The individual I'm talking about has a doctorate in the field of theology and he started a series of threads called "Ask a Theologian." It's currently in its 5th thread, and has been very popular. But the kicker is this: The theologian in question is actually a non-believer (I don't recall if he ever identified as atheist, but I do know he identifies as agnostic). He's written a number of books on the topic, and is an interesting person with a variety of interests (including Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, and Dragonlance).
I mention this because he's an example of someone who has studied theology but doesn't endorse any specific religion, or even religion at all.
Lassie was (depending on how you look at it) either a character in a TV show, a character in a movie that was based on a book (Lassie Come Home, starring a very young Roddy McDowall), or a canine actress subject to the directions of a trainer.
Koko the Gorilla, on the other hand, was a real person who just happened to be of a different species. You want to see Koko's personality shine? There's a video of her interacting with Robin Williams. It's beautiful, how those two became friends.
There's that. And, there's a whole strain of the supremacists who are into Asatru, recreated Norse religion. A lot of them are just a variation on Wiccans but there is a strain of them who see it as recreating their racial roots instead of following a cosmopolitan, multiracial mongrel religion created by Jews.
That depends on the flavor of Christianity. That's not the case for Catholics, for instance.
Catholics must also do everything the Pope says. I wonder what would happen if the Pope went delirious and started ordering people to do crazy stuff... I mean I have no doubt that he'd be stopped and put away after a while but in the meantime, in one speech he could say a lot of demented things!!!
No, that's vastly overstating what the Pope can do almost on a par with the No True Scotsman thing.
The Pope is the common denominator of all Catholics, is he not?
No.
I can see where it might sound that way. But it happens to be true.
I mean, no one would seriously claim that ISIL/Daesh/Al Qaeda are representative of all Muslims, or that people like Madalyn Murray O'Hair speak for all atheists, amirite? Same story here.
There's a big difference between being a representative of a group and simply being a member of that group. ISIL/Daesh/Al Qaeda are definitely not representatives of all Muslims but who is to say that they're not Muslims? I mean don't even know what a Muslim is. I know there are different types. Just as there are different types of Jews and Christians. But beyond that? I've seen Christians argue and disagree just about everything! In fact, the most extremist one (for what I could tell) was convinced that the other one was going straight to hell, literally, the other one seemed more moderate though.
As for Atheists I really don't know much about them, as groups I mean. I know I am one and it's always nice to see that I am not the only one but beyond that... I don't read books about Atheism, Why would I? I don't need to be convinced. The person you talk about, It's the first time I hear about him or is it her? "Madalyn"? Is it a male first name, female or both? I find it staggeringly funny when people think that Nikita is the name of a female!!! Nikita is male! But I guess in a world where Michael is female, anything's possible.
That's an odd response.
No.
Mkay.
NO!!!!
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