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What religion/faith are you?

What Religion are you part of?

  • Atheist

    Votes: 83 43.0%
  • Christian

    Votes: 60 31.1%
  • Jewish

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Muslim

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mormon

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 20 10.4%
  • Agnostic

    Votes: 23 11.9%
  • Hindu

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Buddhist

    Votes: 2 1.0%

  • Total voters
    193
That's new to me. Would you please say more on this?

Here is a link to the Wikipedia article on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_and_positive_atheism.

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What I have to say about it at the moment:

For any logical statement X, the default, prior to any analysis, is that it is unknown whether X is true. The same applies to the negation of X. Prior to analysis, it is also unknown whether the negation of X is true.

When X is the statement that "a god exists," and we have not met the burden to prove X, then we are negative atheists. For the same X, if we judge that the burden has been met to prove the negation of X, then we are positive atheists. "Positive" here means that we are asserting a statement; "negative" means that we are not asserting any statement. An alternate standard for positive atheism would be to prove or establish that the negation of X is more likely to be true than X.

In the predicate calculus, "a god exists," would be encoded by applying the existential quantifier. I expect that a reasonable encoding of it would read something along the lines of, "there exist in experience phenomena that conform to the definition of a deity." The negation of that statement is a universally quantified assertion. So, I expect a reasonable encoding of the negation would read something along the lines of, "for all phenomena in experience, none conform to the definition of a deity." [edit - A more literal translation, though perhaps one more awkward in English, would be, "every phenomenon in experience does not conform to the definition of a deity."] This would be a falsifiable assertion, that could be proven false by observing a deity. As a falsifiable assertion, it could not be scientifically proven, except within the context of a particular theory of physical reality that itself has evidential support. This situation is not a bug, it is a feature in science that, generally speaking, opens the door to progress.

Nevertheless, because of this situation, in my view, it is more rational to be a negative atheist than a positive atheist.

And, it is more than rational to take one's negative atheism and run with it, holding no expectation that it will turn out that a god, in fact, exists.

Of course, a critical issue here is that we have not actually formalized a definition of a deity in a way that people can agree on, or at all really, I'd argue.
 
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i know that, but for me that's not the case - it is not a binary choice, is it? i do neither believe there is a god nor do i believe there isn't - i just don't know

Belief is an actual binary, though: either you believe or you don't. You accept a premise or you do not.
Don't confuse "I don't believe deities exist" with "I believe deities don't exist".
Not accepting the premise "at least one deity exist" does not mean you posit the opposite premise. That's the part that isn't binary. I think most people who call themselves "atheist" and most people who call themselves "agnostic" have the same position: "I don't know if deities exist".
 
All of them?
great question
All? Not quite.
Quite a bit? Quite.
... and a great answer
Belief is an actual binary, though: either you believe or you don't. You accept a premise or you do not.
Don't confuse "I don't believe deities exist" with "I believe deities don't exist".
Not accepting the premise "at least one deity exist" does not mean you posit the opposite premise. That's the part that isn't binary. I think most people who call themselves "atheist" and most people who call themselves "agnostic" have the same position: "I don't know if deities exist".
nonsense - there is a i don't fucking know kind of answer
 
Belief o Matic says I am a 'Secular Humanist'.
I just took it and got the same. I think that's where it puts you when you don't fit. :lol:

nonsense - there is a i don't fucking know kind of answer
Exactly.

Case in point: I recently bought a rosary and a small statue of Mary. I found a group called The Way of the Rose - people who consider themselves various things (Catholic, Pagan, No-Specific-Label, etc.) who pray the rosary - and something felt very right to me. Growing up, I loved when we put flower crowns on Mary's statue in May. Also, as a kid, God the Father was too abstract to grasp and Jesus was kind of That (very human) Guy, but Mary... she was always the Comforting Mother. And I've really needed that. So I'm "reclaiming" that piece of my childhood.

I don't "believe" anything specific - still - but I'm feeling my way along.
 
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