What probably happened to Leyton?
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Before the achievements of Dr. Adams, traitors got life in prison, with a possible reassignment to forced labor in deadly mines later on.
After the good work of Dr. Adams, all criminals got therapy, were cured, and could go on with their lives. Unless the therapy didn't take and they went to Elba II.
We know of no later stage of development, no Phase III of crime management. Probably Leyton would get therapy, too. And then his old job back. Unless Starfleet were more conservative than the society at large and fired him. After all, Starfleet in all Trek still believes in courts martial, in sentences, in reprimands and demotions and other types of punishment, quite regardless of Dr. Adams and his good work that has outdated punishment as a thing altogether.
Timo Saloniemi
After the good work of Dr. Adams, all criminals got therapy, were cured, and could go on with their lives. Unless the therapy didn't take and they went to Elba II.
We know of no later stage of development, no Phase III of crime management. Probably Leyton would get therapy, too. And then his old job back. Unless Starfleet were more conservative than the society at large and fired him. After all, Starfleet in all Trek still believes in courts martial, in sentences, in reprimands and demotions and other types of punishment, quite regardless of Dr. Adams and his good work that has outdated punishment as a thing altogether.
Timo Saloniemi
Well unless things have changed Leyton didn't violate General Order 7 so no execurtion.
But isn't one way to get rid of problem officers to write them a glowing review and transfer them somewhere else? Perhaps they should set up a research station on Ceti Alpha V and have Leyton be in charge of it I hear the climate is die for and they local wildlife will love you.
Prison, most likely a high security one.
Do those exist? Starships and stations have brigs. Even Eddington was kept in one, and not in a prison, despite being in for the long term. By the time of DSC Season 2, prison satellites were being abandoned; by the time of TOS, punishment as a thing was being abandoned, even if penal colonies aka mental asylums for the criminally insane (say, forgers or those flying without a license) were legion. Would prisons be rebuilt for the 24th century?
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
Leyton was a high value prisoner.
As a highly placed admiral he was in possession of a lot of valuable intel whether out of date or not.
My guess would be that after his sentence was served he was quietly relocated to some backwater where he was unknown and even then kept under some surveillance.
As a highly placed admiral he was in possession of a lot of valuable intel whether out of date or not.
My guess would be that after his sentence was served he was quietly relocated to some backwater where he was unknown and even then kept under some surveillance.
Sorry to double post ..but just thinking that nowadays Leyton (his attempted coup foiled) would probably write a book,get a syndicated show and be a viable presidential candidate..
Too soon?
It's both funny and sad, because it's true.
Yup, working Tom Paris' old beat.
"Penal settlement". Which was basically the same designation as with the mental asylums of "Dagger of the Mind" and "Whom Gods Destroy", FWIW. And quite inappropriate, as nothing punitive was associated with any of those three places as far as we could tell - it was all corrective, and not through torture or threats. Perhaps future folks associate "penal" with penitence, which would be more appropriate here?
(And it was in New Zealand. Although perhaps New Zealand was moved to Madagascar at some point, since it's missing in ST:FC when Picard and Lily Sloan look down on Australia from orbit?)
Timo Saloniemi
I think he suffered through the indignity of therapy in some light security facility for a few months, then one night he couldn't take it any more and he hanged himself.
I'm wondering if Section 31 might have tried to bust him out.
According to the novels, he was sentenced to five years in prison and got out on parole after serving three. After which he attempted to live in seclusion but is frequently hounded by journalists and historians seeking to interview him, which he always refuses.
Not according to the novels, where after Section 31 files became public, Leyton was revealed to be one of the few Starfleet Admirals with no connection to Section 31 at all. Indeed, it was a point of embarrassment for Section 31 the coup attempt got as far as it did. They were too busy dealing with other Starfleet Admirals who were red flagged a higher priority threat.
For an attempted military coup, Leyton got FIVE YEARS? What the actual FUCK?
Should have been at least twenty.
Officially speaking, he did turn himself in. Granted, in actuality he was "persuaded" to do so by Sisko, but Sisko allowed Leyton to leave that part out and make it look like he was voluntarily turning himself in. After that all it took was full cooperation with the authorities to divulge all details about the coup attempt after which it only takes a very minimal amount of lawyering to guarantee the lightest punishment possible.
According to memory Beta, he was around in 2386.
After his release from prison, Leyton faded into obscurity. Leyton consistently rebuffed repeated interview requests from journalists, historians, or authors. By 2386 Attorney General Phillipa Louvois had no idea of his whereabouts and decided to have one of her staff track the man down. Louvois was surprised that Leyton's name had not been present on the list of Section 31 agents after the agency's exposure to the public. (TNG novel: Available Light)
He was sentenced to five years in prison and probably released in 2377.
He probably moved to a quiet place somewhere in the Federation where he's writing his biography.
However, rumors says that he was abducted by aliens from another timeline in 2378, sent to Earth in 2017 and is now working in the same office that I work. I have a mate there who looks exactly like Leyton!
After his release from prison, Leyton faded into obscurity. Leyton consistently rebuffed repeated interview requests from journalists, historians, or authors. By 2386 Attorney General Phillipa Louvois had no idea of his whereabouts and decided to have one of her staff track the man down. Louvois was surprised that Leyton's name had not been present on the list of Section 31 agents after the agency's exposure to the public. (TNG novel: Available Light)
He was sentenced to five years in prison and probably released in 2377.
He probably moved to a quiet place somewhere in the Federation where he's writing his biography.
However, rumors says that he was abducted by aliens from another timeline in 2378, sent to Earth in 2017 and is now working in the same office that I work. I have a mate there who looks exactly like Leyton!
For an attempted military coup, Leyton got FIVE YEARS? What the actual FUCK?
Should have been at least twenty.
<In the New Zealand penal colony>
<Leyton> Why are you here?
<Joe Schmuck> Awaiting my execution ....
<Leyton> Execution? How so?
<Joe Schmuck> Well, my vessel suffered a catastrophic warp core breach ... no warp capable shuttles or pods on board ...communications down too .... the only planet with a breathable atmosphere we could reach in time was Talos IV so I went there... but yeah, the order says explicitly no vessel in any circumstance emergency or otherwise is to visit Talos IV, so it turns out there's no escaping the death penalty ... but let's not talk about that. What have you done to end up here and you long do you still have to go?
<Leyton> Who, me? Oh, nothing, really. Sabotage of Earth's power grid, high treason to the Federation, trying to install a military government, corrupting a few dozen junior and more senior officers to follow my lead, counterfeiting evidence and perhaps a few other things hardly worth mentioning. Got 5 years but my lawyer says I'll probably get out in 3.
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