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What percentage of the crew were gay?

It's not a scientific observation, but when I went to a 4 year school in the early 70s, about 3 or 4 students from the previous semester came out within the theater department after we got an openly gay faculty member. He said his interview for the job was the first time he'd ever worn a business suit in his life.
 
The gay couple in Pathways were very minor supporting characters, but at the time, it was still really a breakthru for gays in Trek and sci fi in general. That meant the world to me. It made me feel just a little more inclusive to know that there was a couple of gay guys in love on Voyager even if we never saw or heard from them again.
I was ridiculously optimistic though and did hope that they would show up on the tv show.
 
Leonardo DaVinci while he was alive, was charged with Sodomy when he was 23, and probably the hologram as about that gay too. :)
 
I have thought that before, that the DaVinci hologram may count as a gay character.
IIRC, I've heard there's a TNG novel where Geordie hangs out with a DaVinci hologram, and they walk around holding hands. I don't necessarily interpret that as gay, it's nice to think in the future people can show affection without it being interpreted as sexual or even romantic, but I wouldn't rule out that a gay reading was the author's intent.
Pathways is a good book too btw. I've read it twice and it's in my very large to read stack to be read a third time eventually.
 
Because it's Gordie, no I don't immediately rush to think that something sexy or romantic is going on.

Enterprise is the short bus of Star Fleet.
 
Relying on current population % to project to Voyager may not work too well. Depending on how genetic it is, homosexuality may have been weeded out during the Eugenic wars, to some degree or another.

Idk what canon is on Klingons, but I could see them doing so in their own past. Cardassians more so. So that may go for any other nonhumans on Voyager.

But I do think Harry Kim and Tom Paris would be cute together.
 
There is a bisexual Klingon captain in one of KRAD's books who has many male lovers in the lower ranks he summons to his quarters. It is awesome.
 
Greg Cox's excellent Khan novels had a gay male couple among Khan's genetically enhanced people.

There's lots of instances of gay humans in Star Trek lit, as well as many other gay aliens, specifically with Klingons, Trills, Vulcans. Bisexuality is the norm with Andorians. Garak is explicitly bisexual in the novels, and really, is anybody surprised by that?

The Enterprise novels had a kick ass Klingon warrior with a Klingon doctor husband, and it was pretty clear there was no stigma against homosexuality in Klingon culture.

This awful thing where people suggest that gays have been removed from the human race in Star Trek is just one more reason why the movies or tv shows need to show some gay characters.
 
T'Girl said:
JirinPanthosa said:
I do think that college exposes you to a greater variety of people and many do not consider the possibility until they get that exposure.
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Based on people I've talked to through the years and a fair amount of reading on the subject, well over half of LGBT's realized their sexual orientation during middle school and high school. About a quarter between graduating high school and their mid-twenties (college years). The rest either before middle school or after their mid-twenties.

Unless you can propose a covariance between being gay and making the decision to attend college.
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A 2013 Pew Research social trends study of LGBT Americans showed LGBT were 5% more likely to go to college than the general populace.

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That's interesting, but does it explain the 2:1 ratio for males and 9:1 ratio for females?

That's a good point about gay people being less likely to have started families as teenagers or joined the military but I'm still not sure that explains such high ratios. Unless growing up in a rich neighborhood or even liberal political views is also a covarying factor, that makes you both more likely to go to college and more likely to identify as homosexual.
 
JirinPanthosa said:
That's interesting, but does it explain the 2:1 ratio for males and 9:1 ratio for females?
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While I did participate in this thread back in 2009, I have to admit that I don't know what those ratios refer to. And in all honesty don't really want to read the 90 odd posts prior to the resent bump.

Sorry.

:)
 
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