The Kirk Method. 
What is your personal head canon?
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I thought there was a Temporal Prime Directive? Though if it is as ignored as often as the regular Prime Directive, the universe is fucked.
To whom does the Temporal Prime Directive apply? It doesn't apply to Kirk or Picard as neither of those captains operate under such authority.
I wonder what all the rest of his 17 temporal violations were...
Someone once did a count of the ones we know of from canon and their llist didn't even make it to the halfway point. That man time traveled so much even Janeway was taking pointers.
Maybe he had all those other time travel scenarios while commanding the Enterprise-A. Could explain why Starfleet decommissioned her so early in her lifespan...
We know his last mission at the very end of his life involved forward time travel so that's one of the 17 incidents.
TOS/TAS/TOS films era time travel incidents:
- "The Naked Time." Technically barely a violation since they only go back 3 days, but still involved time travel and possibly impacting events differently.
- Tomorrow is Yesterday: this one is a big one, with the crew having to get on a USAF Base to alter records. Also, gave Captain Christopher knowledge of the future.
- City on the Edge of Forever: famous example.
- Assignment: Earth-obviously example, and again sharing future knowledge.
- All Our Yesterdays: past of a doomed planet but still.
- TAS: Yesteryear.
- TOS Film: The Voyage Home.
- Technically Generations could count as well.
I wonder if the hyperaccelerated temporal existence he briefly experienced in "Wink of an Eye(TOS)" counts? It was a form of time travel since the rest of his crew appeared to barely even move while he was under the influence of the Scalosian chemicals.
Can "ASSIGNMENT: EARTH" count as a violation, though? It was a given assignment by Starfleet, so he was acting under orders.
Yes, because he gave future information to Gary 7.
But Gary Seven already figured the Enterprise was from the future because he pointed out a Vulcan, Spock, being there. Kirk didn't tell him anything before he figured it out on his own.
And Kirk only confirmed the mileage of the detonation after it actually happened.
Maybe Kirk's line of Gary and Roberta having interesting adventures down the road, but said nothing specific.
In my mind all that stuff about Kirk having 17 violations was the Department of Temporal Investigations judging Kirk decades after the fact. I doubt the DTI even existed when Kirk was around.
It also makes sense to me that they issued multiple violations to Kirk for each of his time travel missions, similar to how Kirk & crew racked up so many different charges from stealing the Enterprise in STIII. So if Kirk had a total of say five different time travel missions, he still could've stacked up 17 separate "charges" from the DTI. Hell, for all we know, the DTI considers ANY time travel without their prior approval to be a "violation."
It also makes sense to me that they issued multiple violations to Kirk for each of his time travel missions, similar to how Kirk & crew racked up so many different charges from stealing the Enterprise in STIII. So if Kirk had a total of say five different time travel missions, he still could've stacked up 17 separate "charges" from the DTI. Hell, for all we know, the DTI considers ANY time travel without their prior approval to be a "violation."
That's a good point... like a single crime can have multiple different charges attached to it.
Perhaps that is how the DTI viewed Kirk's trips through time.
Yes, but the implications might be enough for DTI to consider it a violation. Recall that Janeway would not save a people from certain destruction and would not give future knowledge.
True, but in "TIME AND AGAIN", that was a specific thing Janeway didn't want to reveal. Kirk and Spock couldn't have been more vague, short of simply saying 'farewell, folks'.
(Plus, those events in "TIME AND AGAIN" never happened, since the ending reset.)
Speaking of Janeway, if they thought Kirk was a menace to the DTI... I wonder just how many DTI investigations and conversations happened after they got to Earth. Even in the 29th century, the Temporal Police said she showed up on their radar far too often.
Again, we're more gracious, which DTI is not.
True. Especially if the rest of the DTI are anything like Dulmer and Lucsly.
The DTI worked in the semi-comedy episode it was invented for. But , how could anyone ever know anyone had/would timetravel? logically it would never exist.
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