What is your personal head canon?

[Citiprime]

Here’s a question I have about Khan and “Space Seed” …. In order for the situation in Wrath of Khan to occur, we have to believe that Kirk and the crew wrote no official report in their log about the events of “Space Seed.” Like an entire cover up of the entire situation.

Otherwise, before the Reliant checks out the system and planet, there should be a report where everyone goes “oh yeah, this is the system where Kirk dropped off Khan Singh after the incident aboard the Enterprise.”

But a cover up makes no sense. Are you telling me no one on that crew goes back to their families and friends and says hey we were almost all killed after we found one of the most notorious figures from the Eugenics Wars? Like how do they explain McGivers absence to both Starfleet and her family?

 

[FredH]

Here’s a question I have about Khan and “Space Seed” …. In order for the situation in Wrath of Khan to occur, we have to believe that Kirk and the crew wrote no official report in their log about the events of “Space Seed.” Like an entire cover up of the entire situation.

Otherwise, before the Reliant checks out the system and planet, there should be a report where everyone goes “oh yeah, this is the system where Kirk dropped off Khan Singh after the incident aboard the Enterprise.”

But a cover up makes no sense. Are you telling me no one on that crew goes back to their families and friends says hey we were almost all killed after we found one of the most notorious figures from the Eugenics Wars? Like how do they explain McGivers absence to both Starfleet and her family?

They invoked Discovery Protocol? (Whose first rule is that you don’t talk about Discovery Protocol?)
(I half-joke, but that’s pretty much what they do regarding Genesis in TSFS.)

 

[fireproof78]

Here’s a question I have about Khan and “Space Seed” …. In order for the situation in Wrath of Khan to occur, we have to believe that Kirk and the crew wrote no official report in their log about the events of “Space Seed.” Like an entire cover up of the entire situation.

Otherwise, before the Reliant checks out the system and planet, there should be a report where everyone goes “oh yeah, this is the system where Kirk dropped off Khan Singh after the incident aboard the Enterprise.”

But a cover up makes no sense. Are you telling me no one on that crew goes back to their families and friends says hey we were almost all killed after we found one of the most notorious figures from the Eugenics Wars? Like how do they explain McGivers absence to both Starfleet and her family?

It's nonsensical from either direction. Kirk is shown conducting official proceedings and a hearing for the record, in front of witnesses. So, why would he create an official record only to destroy it? Kirk is not Sisko.

Second, even if Reliant didn't have access to those records it would still be visible because a planet blowing up is a big ing deal. It's not a little thing, or something common. It would stand out on all sensors around that a planet blew up. A debris field, and altered orbits, since the system would have been mapped before.

 

[BillJ]

Otherwise, before the Reliant checks out the system and planet, there should be a report where everyone goes “oh yeah, this is the system where Kirk dropped off Khan Singh after the incident aboard the Enterprise.”

Or Starfleet was simply incompetent in their paperwork. Or the Reliant crew may not have been the brightest.

No way Kirk got away without filing a report. How does he explain McGivers missing? Plus, you have 395 other people on the ship, no way it would've stayed quiet even if Kirk hadn't filed a report.

 

[Shat Happens]

a planet blowing up is a big ing deal. It's not a little thing, or something common.

It's very common. Vulcan. Romulus. Genesis. Krypton. Pluto. Earth. The Vogon Construction Fleet is very busy.

 

[fireproof78]

It's very common. Vulcan. Romulus. Genesis. Krypton. Pluto. Earth. The Vogon Construction Fleet is very busy.

You listed 6. There are an estimated discovered 5502 planets in the Milky Way.

That's less than 0.01% occurrence. That's not common.

ETA: thanks to Bill and Macintosh for noting my incorrect grammar. "Discovered" planets added rather than the estimates.

 

[BillJ]

There are an estimated 5502 planets in the Milky Way.

I think your estimate is a little off...

number of planets in the milky way - Search (bing.com)

It is around 100 billion.

 

[fireproof78]

I think your estimate is a little off...

number of planets in the milky way - Search (bing.com)

It is around 100 billion.

https://www.livescience.com/space/how-many-planets-are-in-the-universe



Regardless, it is not common for a planet to explode.

 

[BillJ]

https://www.livescience.com/space/how-many-planets-are-in-the-universe

Fine! You got me.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

In my head canon, Star Trek is split into four distinct timelines.

1: TOS/TAS

2: TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT/PIC/LDS/PRO

3: SNW/DSC

4: JJ Trek

It’s just much easier for me to reconcile and enjoy it that way. I know it’s wrong, but that’s how I like it.

 

[BillJ]

In my head canon, Star Trek is split into four distinct timelines.

1: TOS/TAS

2: TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT/PIC/LDS/PRO

3: SNW/DSC

4: JJ Trek

It’s just much easier for me to reconcile and enjoy it that way. I know it’s wrong, but that’s how I like it.

We reach.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Know I’ve said it before somewhere, but Excelsior’s transwarp basically works — except it turns out you can’t turn in transit, plus the crew turns into lizards. So they went back to the drawing board.

 

[Oddish]

Here's a bit more from me...

The Federation has reverse engineered bits of cloaking devices, and taken in species that have cloaking technology. Their databases have enough data that if the treaty ever ends, they can have an operational cloaking device in weeks, and have most of the fleet outfitted in under a year.

Also, S31 has its own ships (since they don't legally exist, they can't be restricted from owning military equipment), and they have cloaking devices.

 

[at Quark's]

Also, S31 has its own ships (since they don't legally exist, they can't be restricted from owning military equipment), and they have cloaking devices.

Which would make Picard's reaction (assuming he knew about S31, and perhaps suspecting the Romulans knew about S31 as well) in The Pegasus pretty much pointless.

(I haven't seen a lot of newer show material (e.g. Picard) so I don't know how they deal with this.)

 

[Macintosh]

You listed 6. There are an estimated 5502 planets in the Milky Way.

That's less than 0.01% occurrence. That's not common.

We've discovered 5,502 exoplanets. We estimate that the Milky Way contains at least 100 billion, and potentially as many as 3 trillion.

 

[fireproof78]

We've discovered 5,502 exoplanets. We estimate that the Milky Way contains at least 100 billion, and potentially as many as 3 trillion.

Thank you,technically correct.

Doesn't change my purpose or the math.

 

[Macintosh]

Thank you,technically correct.

Doesn't change my purpose or the math.

Don't get pissy mate. "Math" says you're out by at least eight orders of magnitude, and it would have taken you all of 30 seconds on the search engine of your choice to confirm it for yourself. Take your lumps.

 

[fireproof78]

Don't get pissy mate. "Math" says you're out by at least eight orders of magnitude, and it would have taken you all of 30 seconds on the search engine of your choice to confirm it for yourself. Take your lumps.

I'll be how I am. And since BillJ already corrected me I feel sufficiently lumped.

My math was to correct an opinion that exploding planets was common. Even with the stated estimate vs. discovered planets it is not "common" based upon examples given by the person I was replying to.

I trust that clarifies my purpose. I apologize for using thr incorrect term.

 

[Macintosh]

I'll be how I am.

Right-oh. Cheeribye.

 

[cooleddie74]

Right-oh. Cheeribye.

[Blackadder] I understood that reference. [/Blackadder]